Posted on 08/24/2015 8:08:21 PM PDT by Cvengr
About 50 North Korean submarines that had been moved to the frontline amid heightened military tension are now returning to their home bases, a military source said after the two Koreas reached a deal.
More than 50 out of North Korea's around 70 submarines had previously been detected away from their bases for operations after the country threatened an "all-out war" against South Korea and ratcheted up its combat readiness posture.
"The 50-something submarines that had been away from their bases since Aug. 21 have shown signs of returning back to their home bases," the military official said, adding that they had been moving in North Korea's inland sea.
Other military officials indicated that the return of the submarines could be related with Typhoon Goni that is approaching the Korean Peninsula or the vehicles' insufficient underwater navigation capacity.
North Korean submarines can stay underwater up to three days before needing to surface to replenish oxygen, exposing themselves to surveillance.
The military officials said they will continue their anti-submarine patrol efforts to guard against any possibility of the North Korean submarines crossing over the Northern Limit Line to the southern side.
North Korea is known to operate 77 submarines that are 1,800 tons, 325 tons and 130 tons in size. The country is also believed to have recently built a 2,000-ton submarine that can fire ballistic missiles.
North Korea's maneuver was detected hours after the two Koreas reached an agreement on ways to defuse heightened military tension on the peninsula in marathon negotiations.
North Korea expressed regret over its land mine attack on the South and promised efforts not to repeat provocations in the agreement, while the South decided to halt its propaganda loudspeaker broadcasts critical of North Korea along the border. (Yonhap)
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We agree to feed them yet again and they agree to take their toys and go home. Stupid haircut wins again.
Why do we know about this?
Very, very odd for North Korea to apologize...
They lied.
You see?
No greater war.
And the promptness of their reaction points to something unseen:
THEY WERE PAID.
That’s fine, but just make no mistake, this mysterious resolution was a matter of SUBSTANCE, noooot principle.
SK looked at the costs of German re-unification and blanched —the costs were SKY-HIGH, and estimates were that Korean unification would be 300% more expensive.
China and SK are perfectly willing to keep NK limping along hobbled and drinking Tree Bark Soup.
CUZ THAT PATH IS **CHEAPER**.
We also probably kicked into the kitty pretty richly, too, I’d wager.
BEEN GOING ON FOR *DECADES*.
If history is a lesson, the settlement was...
1. Money
2. Food
3. Fertilizer
Plus maybe some secret side letter about scheduling and parameters of military drills and simulations, maybe.
IMHO, the Adversary believes his plans are further advanced by flip flopping between legalism and lasciviousness.
Obama has led the West into degenerate behavior long enough. He’ll (The Adversary) now promote a very rational legalistic leader to gain more popularity and adjust his ties on the mass public. Looks like the Donald might provide an intermission until he arrives.
He isn’t stupid enough to advance another Hitler or Stalin when he can advance a more worldly power structure willing to worship his system as an alternative to God’s Plan.
N Korea just adds tension to a geopolitical region, which is easily toppled if they get out of hand. Meanwhile they act as bait to attract other international power hungry criminals and expose their agendas.
Say anything you want, but fielding 50 submarines in under a week is pretty impressive.
Interestingly there have been no indications that the U.S participated in any talks, other than activating troops. No self congratulations from the State Department.
Or Hillary & Trump are sucking all the oxygen out of the air?
Especially being off-watch and trying to get some much needed sleep, in a very small diesel boat full of puking Norks. Ughhh.
Which is scarier, operationally launching 50 submarines in a week or knowing an adversary has recently rehearsed and trained their naval forces in such an operation?
The U.S has the most # of Submarines for a Nation, followed by Korea, then China, Then Russia, then Iran.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-submarines.asp
I’ll stick to my first impression.
It would have been a good time to sink as many as we could. Plausible deniability, and the Norks left wondering about the safety of their boats.
Well, what is the source for the 50 submarines? Allied subs tailing them? Acoustic sensors near NK sub bases? Anti-sub ships/planes targeting and monitoring them?
Or the North Koreans saying they are recalling their 50 submarines?
Reports I have read say the submarines “vanished”. Before I accept that they “deployed”, I would prefer to know they actually “deployed” and weren’t simply concealed.
Just because we don’t know where the submarines are doesn’t mean they are underway, or even if they are, if they are underway in a meaningful operational sense.
I simply don’t take NK at their word for anything at all. Anything. Scum sucking bottom feeding SOB that they are.
Diesel subs need... diesel fuel. My guess is that this surge required so much fuel that each sub left with less than “half-a-tank”. Now if the seas get rough, and you can’t ride-out the storm by diving deep and staying there... let’s just say that Bull Halsey proved that ships with empty fuel bunkers don’t ride well in typhoons.
All recalled,...except for one?
Wait: is the fertilizer for agriculture, or is it for faking nuclear explosions?
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