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California bill would close ‘insidious’ wage gap between men and women
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 08/24/15 | Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 08/24/2015 8:00:41 PM PDT by artichokegrower

In an attempt to narrow the “insidious wage gap” between men and women, the California Legislature is on the verge of passing a stronger equal pay law that supporters believe will be the toughest in the nation — but some say still doesn’t go far enough.

Not only will the California Fair Pay Act make it more difficult for employers to justify paying men more than women for “substantially similar” work, but employers will be prohibited from retaliating against women who ask about or discuss the pay of their male colleagues.

“We’re closing all the loopholes,” said state Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, who authored the bill. “No more excuses.”

(Excerpt) Read more at santacruzsentinel.com ...


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KEYWORDS: california; economy; employment
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To: artichokegrower

the wage gap is the biggest myth 30 years ago there was on today when you look at experience on the job I believe women are actually being paid more....the problem is that when women have kids they usually end up raising them making it harder to get ahead in the work force....taking years off being in the work force hurts your earning potential and between your late 20s and early 30s is your time to pay your dues to get the higher paying jobs. if you quit working or go to part time you are going to effect wages when measured as a group.


21 posted on 08/24/2015 8:53:54 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: DoughtyOne

Where I worked the Moms had their babies, dried them off & dropped them off at the grandparents, then took three month vacations.
The Emergency Medical Family Leave act: no emergency, just insidious/invidious discrimination against men, and lots of leave. Rah rah rah

Setting off nuclear bombs in the San Andreas trench is still on the table ...


22 posted on 08/24/2015 8:58:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: dsrtsage

A womans work is never finished. Perhaps that is why they are paid less. (ducking and running)

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I help out my wife with the house work. Just yesterday, I put my own coffee cup in the dish washer.


23 posted on 08/24/2015 8:59:47 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Hillary not only brings old baggage wherever she goes, she picks up new baggage when she gets there)
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To: FreedomStar3028

oh yes they absolutely were. I have a lot of catching up to do.


24 posted on 08/24/2015 9:01:16 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (G.A.L.T., Government Absent Laissez-faire Technique)
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To: FreedomStar3028

oh yes they absolutely were. I have a lot of catching up to do.


25 posted on 08/24/2015 9:01:17 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (G.A.L.T., Government Absent Laissez-faire Technique)
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To: DoughtyOne

You are correct....women work LESS, if they have children...it’s just a fact.


26 posted on 08/24/2015 9:07:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: DoughtyOne

And, I’m REALLY tired of this PAY GAP CRAP. (Yeah, I’m a woman.)


27 posted on 08/24/2015 9:08:21 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: goodnesswins

You are totally correct.

I think Mark Levin covered all of this and yes, we’re all correct here.


28 posted on 08/24/2015 9:11:19 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (G.A.L.T., Government Absent Laissez-faire Technique)
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To: goodnesswins

Sorry, the top part was directed for you. The bottom was for another thread but it kind of works here too i suppose. lol.


29 posted on 08/24/2015 9:12:11 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (G.A.L.T., Government Absent Laissez-faire Technique)
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To: DoughtyOne
women don't get pregnant by themselves....

and do you suggest that women should never get pregnant?..

isn't it a good thing for society that we have children to replace us?...

and yet, if this woman does have a baby, she gets placed permanently behind other workers?....

its like this.....the National guard requires you take two weeks each year....it requires a weekend every month to train....

should employers not hire young guardsmen?...because they'll have to let them go every summer and even lose them for several months if they get called up...

but there are laws to protect his/her position when he/she returns....

30 posted on 08/24/2015 9:13:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: tumblindice

LOL

Hey.


31 posted on 08/24/2015 9:23:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: goodnesswins

And frankly, I like that.

The more the parents participate in the early years, the better.


32 posted on 08/24/2015 9:24:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Or, if you did, to leave.

Hopefully some big corporations will pack up and vote with their feet.


33 posted on 08/24/2015 9:28:25 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: goodnesswins

I will say that I agree with you, but there are times when cases can be made. I’m not saying there aren’t some problems from time to time.

Women do deserve fairness, and as a man that loves women, I want them treated right.

Every woman is some guy’s current or potential treasure.

They deserve fairness just like men do.


34 posted on 08/24/2015 9:28:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: econjack
This has so many problems. I don't know if this is still true or not, but a letter carrier for the USPS had to be able to lift 75lbs from the floor to the top of a loading dock. Women were allowed a lesser weight.

Agree. For the last 50 years I've seen women getting male co-workers to carry weight for them, while they act as equals to men. I say "act" because they are definitely not carrying their weight. Equal pay for equal work is politically correct nonsense, because of so many exceptions. Not saying all women are that way, but enough are to make such a bill to close a wage gap ridiculous.

For instance, in various jobs as an I.T. systems engineer, a stipulated requirement for employment is to be able to lift 50 pounds (which is really nothing). I have had women with the same job classification ask me to lift servers into position into racks. Disgusted me because I had far more experience, as well as doing five times as much work and was usually busy with my own work at hand, while they had much free time and no repercussions. These gals couldn't lift monitors into position. Yet they demanded the pay and perks, getting by on other co-workers efforts. Some jobs are meant for men to do, what with having more upper-body strength. If that's not the case, it shouldn't be in the job requirements, or women should be let go.

35 posted on 08/24/2015 9:32:13 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Crazieman

Unfortunately, the California craziness has a tendency to spread to the rest of the country.

What these people don’t get is that what hurts men, also hurts women. In case they haven’t noticed, women have fathers, brothers, husbands, uncles, and sons, and every time the government tries to make things “fair”, it makes things less fair.

The liberals are determined that all women should be in the work force, paying taxes to support the bloated government, and that all the kiddies should be in government run daycare from the beginning. Liberals aren’t having kids of their own, so they have to make sure the children of others are properly indoctrinated.


36 posted on 08/24/2015 10:51:38 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: artichokegrower
This is a step toward something much more malignant, ie "comparable worth."

Instead of "equal pay for equal work" they want to implement "Equal pay for jobs of comparable worth." Comparable worth will of course be determined by government bureaucrats, not the free market, thus crippling employers' ability to set their own rates for pay and compensation. They will be required to apply to the government to determine how much they must pay their employees.

This bill is a step in that direction.

37 posted on 08/25/2015 3:21:22 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DoughtyOne

For an increasing number of American women maternity leaves are becoming irrelevant (as they will never have children); at my job it is the foreign (Hispanic & Asian) women taking maternity leaves. The American women, seeing the hours of the foreign mothers taper off to raise their children, then use similar excuses (substituting parents or pets as those requiring care) to work the minimum hours. Fearing legal repercussions, management does nothing; now the men are following suit. When management decided to fabricate titles to justify giving more money to females (again, to fend off lawsuits), I started “working like a girl”; after the hours I used to work (unpaid overtime, as a “salaried employee”), it feels like a part-time job. I can take my children to their sports practices, no longer run errands on my lunch break, and I’m sorry I ever worked as hard as I did before (though it got me promotions).

For nearly five years now I feel like I have a government job...


38 posted on 08/25/2015 3:43:24 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: donna
All of that is negated by one thing.

- Men are less likely to unite and fight for their rights.

Sorry, but that's how it is.

39 posted on 08/25/2015 3:44:44 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: donna

See # 38; absolutely right about the hours worked.


40 posted on 08/25/2015 3:45:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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