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Conservatives provide a reality check on Donald Trump's mass deportation plan
Examiner ^ | August 22, 2015 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 08/23/2015 12:07:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Ever since Donald Trump, the mercurial businessman, media personality, and presidential candidate, proposed his immigration policy, centering on the mass deportation of up to 11 million human beings, reaction among conservatives has been decidedly mixed. Ann Coulter, for whom illegal immigration is the alpha and the omega of public policy, exalted that Trump could perform abortions in the White House, and she would not care. But Charles Krauthammer, writing in the National Review on Thursday, and George Will, in his latest column published Saturday, provided reality checks.

Krauthammer wondered what the practical political effects would be of reenacting the Trail of Tears on a mass scale would be on the Republican Party, poised as it is on the edge of its greatest victory since 1980. His answer is not very hopeful.

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Will, on the other hand, concentrates on how big government would have to grow to implement Trump’s plan.

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............. Even Ted Cruz, no slouch where it comes to illegal immigration, realizes that this would require a constitutional amendment, a dubious prospect at best.

The upshot is that there exist practical ways of dealing with illegal immigration that most people would not find abhorrent. These include securing the borders with a wall, cracking down on people who overstay their visas, eliminating the abuse of H1-B work visas where some companies are replacing American workers with cheaper foreign workers, and dealing with the illegals that are already here in some way that is not as obnoxious as mass deportation and not as craven as amnesty. Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters that would reduce the Republican Party to permenant minority status.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
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To: bestintxas

???


141 posted on 08/23/2015 6:03:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OK, point them out, especially the ones who start their “objective” analysis with a disclaimer.

BTW, if you want debate on issues;
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/22/bobby-jindal-scott-walker-too-intimidated-to-debate-healthcare-plan/


142 posted on 08/23/2015 6:07:48 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Will and Kraut articles are silly propaganda.
The “vast expanse of gov power” is merely enforcement of current law, and Hispanics who have already “gotten theirs” will not be adverse to an end to open borders- it protects their interests.

A great discussion of the Constitutional issue is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3327528/posts
Very disappointed not to see more Freepers on the thread.


143 posted on 08/23/2015 6:18:01 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
CW, Scott Walker just knocked it out of the park in an interview with Stephnopulos. He said the magic words that there would be no mandatory health insurance. He agreed with Trump's key issues except for defending the economy of his state. He emphasized EVerify and secure the border. It's the most impressive he's been. JMHO
144 posted on 08/23/2015 6:24:18 AM PDT by grania
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Funny, nobody acted like it would be that tough to overturn the meaning of marriage which existed since the existence of mankind, in the face of majority opposition of Americans, yet just 5 black-robed tyrants did exactly that in the blink of an eye. Nobody thought it was even possible to deny reality and call men, women, yet the whole media-political complex has done exactly that, even dictating that these "trans" shall serve openly in the military, though their DNA says that the reality of their sex is the same as it ever was. But it's too much for Americans to expect that the government merely enforce existing law as it has been since the founding of our nation, and keep illegal aliens from entering our country, and deport them when they do sneak in, instead of taking money from the pockets of legal taxpaying Americans to subsidise their living from the second they cross the border.
145 posted on 08/23/2015 7:32:25 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: grania

Thank you for that info.

I didn’t see it.

You’re a class act to say so.


146 posted on 08/23/2015 7:38:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mrsmel

And it’s become a crime to be an American citizen while conservative.


147 posted on 08/23/2015 7:41:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Lincoln was once a Whig and Washington was once a British military officer.

...

Respectfully, Washington was an officer in the provincial militia. He was never made a British officer. I only mention it, because if he had been made a British officer, it could have had a tremendous influence on history.


148 posted on 08/23/2015 7:48:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yes, that's just about literally true. I mean, forcing people to go to "diversity training" because their religious beliefs don't conform to the supposedly prevailing PC view that sodomy is just dandy, something to celebrate, much less a sin? It's a good thing the left didn't make their issue to atand on murder, but then they knew better than that. I tell you here and now, if anyone ever tries to force me to go to "diversity training" because as a Christian I oppose sodomite marriage and call it evil and sin, I will have to go to jail.
149 posted on 08/23/2015 8:08:38 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TADSLOS

I pretty much agree. I think Walker is better than this, but it does make you wonder doesn’t it.


150 posted on 08/23/2015 8:42:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: bigtoona

Ha. The trail of litter would probably be closer to the truth.


151 posted on 08/23/2015 8:49:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can it be done? Sure, nothing’s impossible. It’ll take an entirely different congress, a lot of police raids, tens of millions of dollars, and either hundreds of new judges or a couple decades to get through all of the hearings and appeals.

Will it be done? No. Even if Trump got in and started issuing executive orders at twice the speed of Obama, he can only do so much. Congress won’t help him, many judges will be unhelpful, many blue states would work actively against it, and with the amount of time it would take to even make a dent, we’d likely have a new president already.

This is one of those things that would require the whole team - all of government, and we can’t get them to agree on little things, let alone things they don’t want to do.


152 posted on 08/23/2015 8:54:18 AM PDT by Reaper19
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These aren’t Conservatives! These are RINO’s - they both opposed Reagan. The writer seems to be confused by what a Conservative is!!!


153 posted on 08/23/2015 9:04:39 AM PDT by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He looks boring and dull even separated from his body.

Sorry, he just doesn’t have the flame.

And I am a Ted Cruz supporter who is now leaning towards Trump, because he appears to be the only one who understands how far America has fallen, and at least one of the reasons why it has fallen, and isn’t scared of his own shadow or saying something that might make someone mad somewhere.

I a DAMN SICK AND TIRED of wimp Republicans, and please don’t tell me how Walker took on unions in Wisconsin, because really, I do not care.


154 posted on 08/23/2015 9:50:04 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Erik Latranyi

The fact that he cannot garner any national support demonstrate that he is not a leader.

What he did in Wisconsin really has no bearing on whether or not he understands what’s ailing America.

And I can’t see that he has any understanding of that at all.

Oh, and he is as boring and dull as boring and dull can be.


155 posted on 08/23/2015 9:53:20 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Where on earth did the author get the idea that the GOP is “poised as it is on the edge of its greatest victory since 1980?”

Every poll so far puts D’s up for 2016. This sounds like the kind of delusion that gripped so many conservatives before Romney lost in ‘12.


156 posted on 08/23/2015 10:14:27 AM PDT by Empire View
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

LOL, I’d rather have conservative talk - like deporting illegals and pointing out the crimes and costs to Americans - than waffling for/against amnesty & 14th amendment.


157 posted on 08/23/2015 10:25:56 AM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Hardens Hollow

He’s proposing things that are more conservative than 90% of the R field, 100% in some cases.


Which he STOLE form Ted Cruz and has been advocating these things in the Senate before Trump even became a REPUBLICAN..

A brand NEW, shining fresh REPUBLICAN...
BUT some people LOVE shiny things..


158 posted on 08/23/2015 10:30:35 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Erik Latranyi
And your backing of SELLOUT Walker shows you care nothing about our National Security.
You can trust TED CRUZ.
With SELLOUT Walker ... you can NOT !
159 posted on 08/23/2015 11:33:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Erik Latranyi
What a LAUGH !
Is that WHY the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS"<.b> are SUPPORTING Walker ? Did the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" GIVE you your "TALKING POINTS" ?
160 posted on 08/23/2015 11:39:24 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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