Posted on 08/18/2015 8:15:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
"If it weren’t for me," Donald Trump told the Fox News moderators at the first Republican presidential debate, "you wouldn’t even be talking about illegal immigration." The record-breaking audience of 24 million, which is ten times Fox’s usual nightly viewership, had to agree.
Trump’s new position paper reinforces the blunt talk that has propelled his rise in the polls: "A nation without borders is not a nation. A nation without laws is not a nation. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation."
That’s a refreshing contrast to the immigration paper recently released by Jeb Bush, who is the candidate of the big-money, big-business faction of the Republican party. Jeb famously said illegal immigrants were guilty only of "an act of love," and his plan would reward them with permanent "legal status" which he said must be "combined with" long-overdue measures to secure the border.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
“Tiger....did you also note Cruz setting up a Southern “Firewall” while everyone else was in Iowa...and in then in comes Trump and takes over the entire event.....meanwhile Cruz cuts a trough thereunder the south.
These two have a very real thing going on in how they’re setting this stage....remarkable and brilliant!”
Any so called Cruz supporter, who doesn’t understand What you posted and shows severe Trump Derangement Syndrome posting on this site and other sites is deranged and/or a George $oreA$$ minimum wage hand puppet.
Bttt
Oh, please: "What hallucenogenic weed are they smoking? "
Why would someone who dominates the polls and earned the trust of the American voter, who has a $10 billion war chest, decide to give it all to a non-starter like Cruz...Cruz who just collapsed into single digits?
Facts is Trump isn't just inside the GOPe/Rat/Media OODA loop...he's taken control of it. He's setting the pace.
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Cruz is saddled w/ Washington insider political baggage......and has done a good job of hiding it from anti-pol voters. It's a huge red flag that Cruz continually touts himself as "Hispanic".......groveling for latino votes. The fact is he is only 1/3 Hispanic.....and has been dining out on his last name for ages. Lurking beneath all that conservative blather is the latino's "us against them" battlecry.
FWIW, my sister had a job working with mostly illegal Mexicans in Texas some years ago. She spoke Spanish fluently and said that many, if not even most of them were kind, wonderful people. But this belief is in their DNA.
They have absolutely no guilt or even remorse about crossing the border illegally, staying illegally or milking their American hosts for all they can get because this is how they've been programmed to think.
Thanks for the realtime input.
I heard Trump in one of his interviews say that he would pick a politician as his VP. Can’t have 2 business people on the ticket. Cruz will short up the evangelical, conservative base for the ticket. I just can’t see anyone else who could or should be on the ticket.
In other words, Jeb IS terrible!
“Jeb Bush may be a very nice man, personally.”
So you know him, personally?
Same social circles, yes.
“RINOs have capitulated so much ground we need to go hard, hard right to get back to normal.”
Your excellent comment needs to be shouted from the rooftops! As a nation, we have gone so far to the left, that the discussion itself is off the charts. Asking not the degree of mental illness of a man sodomizing another man, but whether or not it’s marriage. Asking not what punishment is suitable for people invading our country, but how many rewards and gifts they should receive. Asking not if the murderers of babies get life in prison or get put to death, but what the going rate is for baby parts. Asking not if there is even a politician worthy of leading this once great nation, but which of them is the least criminal and if any of them is capable of telling the truth.
Yes, the nation must turn hard, hard right if it is to survive.
His niceness is not the issue. His inability to focus on the real immigration issue, is the issue.
What Trump is telling the elites is the American people want a country that’s NOT over run with illegals. Rather than journalists and elites telling us why we CAN’T have a secure border they need to spend their time figuring out how we CAN secure our border.
But he does not understand that the primary function of that complex institution, the American Government, is to defend the multi-generational interests of the American people, against--if need be--the rest of the world.
Jeb's not a bad person but as an elite he's totally out of touch with the problems of the American people. His handlers might have enough money to hire shills to attack other Republican and run negative ads up the wazoo about them.. but he'll still be out of touch. Nothing covers that.
.....”The more policy papers he and his people generate, the more legitimate he will be seen, and the more people will feel secure in supporting him”....
Actually he needs to not let it ‘all’ out there, but do so bit by bit... this was sufficient....now all the other candidates are playing off his program...(Except Cruz).
Trumps already shown himself to be legitimate.....the media was who were making him see otherwise. The people were “interested” to see what more he was going to say....and he’s shown himself pretty much solid thus far.
I don't think you will get a straight answer.
He has been dancing around the "what about those that are here now" question for over a year.
He has never called for a wall.
He wants to triple the number of H1B's.
Cruz is as far to the right on this subject as the donors will allow, no further.
I like Cruz, but he has to toe the line if he wants more than individual donations of $50. Or $500.
That won't eve get him close.
Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration
On the other hand, Hispanics in Texas are projected to eclipse the white population sometime in the next decade, and Mr. Cruz cannot afford to alienate large numbers of Latino voters with a strident anti-immigrant tone and a hard-line legislative approach. Major business interests also are supporting a path to citizenship.
What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.
Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.
Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.
“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.
Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.
Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.
Qualcomm applied for a record number of H1-Bs and laid off 1000 engineers, nearly on the same day.
That’s not good for America. That would be a tough sell for Jeb, or Ted, and if Ted is for what Qualcomm just did, then Ted is disqualified.
Period.
We need to hear from Ted on that.
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