The Trumpification of the GOP Is About to End

Commentary Magazine's Contentions ^ | August 7, 2015 | Noah Rothman

[Hawthorn]

>> Rothman clearly hasn’t seen the post-debate poll yet <<

Did you read the article? IMO, here is the money line:

While 36 percent said they thought better of Trump after the debate, another 45 percent said they thought less of him

[Hawthorn]

>> Trump . . . has picked up over 200,000 supporters on Twitter since the beginning of the month <<

How's he doing in the Literary Digest poll?

[LS]

If that was really true, 1) he wouldn't be essentially unchanged from same poll before debate (-1) and 2) he would be at 100% unfavorability, since supposedly before the debate he was at -60%. And THAT'S the "money line."

Whatever else they say, they still come back to preferring him 3:1 over Bush and significantly over Cruz.

[SamAdams76]

Literary Digest hasn't been published since the 1930s. Are you sure you don't mean something else?

[Twinkie]

Yeah, I like Bobby Jindal, too. No one is 100% pure as the driven snow; but I can hope at least for someone decent in that job. (Why anyone now wants the job puzzles me.)

[Hawthorn]

>> Whatever else they say, they still come back to preferring him 3:1 over Bush and significantly over Cruz <<

Maybe so. But my point is that DT’s prospects have gotta be more than a bit questionable when the unfavorables are significantly higher than the favorables. So we oughta keep an eye on both numbers, not just one.

[Hawthorn]

>> Literary Digest hasn't been published since the 1930s <<

Yeah, too bad. We could use one of their polls about now.

[LS]

Not sure. I think it’s like the u favorables of a NASCAR race-—”oh I really don’t like it, I’m just here with a friend.”

[EternalVigilance]

Those who observe politics for a living...

Articles like this tell a lot more about the pretensions of the writers than they do about Donald Trump.

[Mike Darancette]

I’m becoming more and more convinced that Trump has been planning to go independent from the beginning.

[JoeFromSidney]

Isnt Commentary some northeastern, tassel loafer Neocon rag?

It used to be a voice of rationality, especially back during the Cold War. Then the editor died, and under the new editor it went astray. I let my subscription expire.

[Norseman]

Trump is on a lark. He didn’t expect to be taken near this seriously by so many people and really doesn’t know what to do next. But so long as the MSM will keep shoving mics in front of his face, he’ll keep sticking his foot in his mouth on a daily basis.

Obviously the Trump adorers who used to be GOP voters have no problem with him going third party, and also appear to have no problem with the fact that the Dems are trying to paint Trump as the typical conservative (wonder why?), so it would appear to me that said voters have every intention of leaving the GOP to vote for Trump should that become necessary.

Assuming that to be the case, why should we listen to them when it comes to choosing the GOP nominee? They’re going to leave anyway if they don’t get their way, right along with Trump. He’s obviously a “take my ball and go home when I don’t get my way” sort of guy, but I had no idea so many conservatives were the same sort.

The GOP should “disinvite” Trump from the next debate and let the chips fall where they may. He’ll flail around, let the spittle fly in all directions, and probably take 5% of the GOP voters with him, but at least then we’d be rid of Hillary’s stalking horse and can get back to deciding which of a dozen or more excellent candidates should be the GOP nominee.

[caww]

You got it wrong...’WE’ are the GOP... ‘THEY’ are the 3rd Party in Washington.

[savedbygrace]

Ah, another “I’m smarter than you, so listen to me” articles.

LOL.

[Norseman]

No, you’re deluding yourselves. But if you are the GOP what are you doing chasing a guy that’s going to leave the party if he’s not nominated?

You are the 3rd party whether you admit it or not. Unless, of course, all this Trump mania is just a way to blow off steam before you help pick a candidate who won’t go down in flames to Hillary.

When the MSM is willing to give your candidate all the free publicity he wants, that’s not a good indication that you’ve chosen wisely.

If you’re really convinced that the GOP consists only of people who will sell you down the river, what are you doing in the GOP at all?

I get a little tired of the constant cynicism when the GOP has taken control of so many state governments and where they have control they’re doing an excellent job of turning things around in the states. I happen to think the same will happen once we get control of the Presidency, provided Trump and his followers don’t blow the opportunity to get that done.

[Jim Noble]

Commentary magazine has been hysterically anti-Trump for weeks.

[StandAndFight]

Thank you. Very well put. Just Trump’s admission that he won’t back the nominee primary voters eventually choose should end all support for him among Conservatives. He’s just in it as a spoiler and for the publicity. He can’t match the others’ knowledge about issues and their communication skills and that ticks him off. So, he resorts to insults and schoolyard name-calling that appeal to a certain segment of the population that admires crude blowhards who like to stick it to people who disagree with them. The country deserves better than this. It desperately needs something better than this.

[jpsb]

"He is in this for himself. It was a fact demonstrated by his refusal to rule out a third-party bid or his insistence that he would only support the Republican Party’s presidential nominee if he were that nominee."

I'd be willing to bet that most FRpeers would not make that pledge. Trump main issue is illegal immigration, how in hell can someone who's main issue is immigration pledge to support a Jeb Bush or any of the other amnesty candidates? Jezz this is not rocket science.

Personally I'm at the point there I think Trump should go third party. Screw the uniparty.

[Will88]

how in hell can someone who's main issue is immigration pledge to support a Jeb Bush or any of the other amnesty candidates? Jezz this is not rocket science

They can't. As much as some Freepers and others want to fit this years critical issues into liberal and conservative, they just won't fit. Legal and illegal immigration, bad trade deals and US sovereignty are more critical this election cycle, and liberal and conservative pols are all over the map on those issues.

[jpsb]

Bump