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Climate models are even more accurate than you thought
Guardian UK ^ | July 31, 2015 | by Dana Nuccitelli

Posted on 07/31/2015 2:06:09 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Global climate models aren’t given nearly enough credit for their accurate global temperature change projections. As the 2014 IPCC report showed, observed global surface temperature changes have been within the range of climate model simulations.

Now a new study shows that the models were even more accurate than previously thought. In previous evaluations like the one done by the IPCC, climate model simulations of global surface air temperature were compared to global surface temperature observational records like HadCRUT4. However, over the oceans, HadCRUT4 uses sea surface temperatures rather than air temperatures.

There’s a common myth that models are unreliable, often based on apples-to-oranges comparisons, like looking at satellite estimates of temperatures higher in the atmosphere versus modeled surface air temperatures.

This new study has shown that when we do an apples-to-apples comparison, climate models have done a good job projecting the observed temperatures where humans live. And those models predict that unless we take serious and immediate action to reduce human carbon pollution, global warming will continue to accelerate into dangerous territory.

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KEYWORDS: globalists; globalwarming; hoax; marxism
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1 posted on 07/31/2015 2:06:09 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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There’s nothing wrong with the computer models, it’s reality that’s jacked.

Reality isn’t doing what we said it would: the planet is obviously a racist, sexist, homophobe that’s mad that America elected a black man as president.


2 posted on 07/31/2015 2:08:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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Repeat after me — the weather isn’t accurate. The climate models are.


3 posted on 07/31/2015 2:08:54 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So the fellow pictured would envy what’s happening in the propaganda department today?

Betcha Josef Mengele would be proud of Planned Parenthood.


4 posted on 07/31/2015 2:09:18 PM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, they definitely produce the results the America-hating communist liberals are looking for.


5 posted on 07/31/2015 2:09:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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http://www.science20.com/news_articles/new_ice_age_is_coming_by_2030_says_analysis-156558


6 posted on 07/31/2015 2:12:56 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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LOLOLOLOLOL! Right. And I have some beach front property here in NV. Well, when the sea levels rise over 5000ft that is. By early though.


7 posted on 07/31/2015 2:13:10 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Tzimisce

Well I’ve lived in Oregon about 3/4ths of my life. Every year it rains and rains during the fall/winter/spring.

Didn’t do that this year, it was sunny and cold, now it’s the hottest here I’ve ever remembered it being.


8 posted on 07/31/2015 2:15:20 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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Data ist Data,schweinhundt! Jaaaa!!!

MoonBeam will push for even harsher measures to battle climate change.

Meanwhile , Europe sits.. As ice sheets advance..

Get me the Popa on line 3.. I got Al gore on one and and that indian rapist bastard pashnuri?? Rashnuri?? Oon line 2.

We need a strategy.


9 posted on 07/31/2015 2:15:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Climate models are even more accurate than you thought

Funny, I don't think they are accurate at all............Computer modeling isn't SCIENCE........................It's tinkertoys with data................

10 posted on 07/31/2015 2:16:05 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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11 posted on 07/31/2015 2:16:58 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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12 posted on 07/31/2015 2:17:48 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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All you have to do is “correct” all of the data going in.

No warming? Then just change the early temperature data to show lower temperatures in the past.


13 posted on 07/31/2015 2:18:34 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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have they found any models that can predict the past??


14 posted on 07/31/2015 2:20:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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This month is averaging 7 degrees colder than this month last year.

Where do I find that in a climate model?


15 posted on 07/31/2015 2:22:48 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Finally pushing global warming in July/August instead of December/January, they're getting smarter.

16 posted on 07/31/2015 2:24:44 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Its easy to develop a model that fits the data when you are willing to “adjust” the data to fit the model.


17 posted on 07/31/2015 2:31:17 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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This month is averaging 7 degrees colder than this month last year.

According to the "corrected" temperature data, it was really damned cold back in the 1930s, so that means it is getting warmer and the climate models are correct.

Apparently, all of that dust during the Dust Bowl was really snow and ice.

18 posted on 07/31/2015 2:34:07 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Models predicted News York would be under water this year. Are you sure they are accurate?

Quite picking and choosing what to include in your model and you will have a much more complex and accurate model.


19 posted on 07/31/2015 2:35:45 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Snickering Hound

I guess that bottle could ‘hold out’ for only so long.


20 posted on 07/31/2015 2:37:00 PM PDT by fhayek
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