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Just Say It: Trump Has No Standing to Debate in My Party
Huffington Post Entertainment ^ | July 30th.2015 | Jonathan Funke

Posted on 07/30/2015 3:36:57 PM PDT by Mariner

Donald Trump has broken the political contract with my party. The RNC should return the favor and bar him from the debates, even if it costs us the election

Donald Trump has said plenty to offend humanity at large, which humanity, ever the sucker for a train wreck, keeps rewarding with high ratings. But speaking strictly as a perennially disappointed Northeast Republican, what I find most outrageous is his transparent abuse of my party for expediency's sake.

Rick Wilson recently pointed out on CNN, as others have, that Trump isn't even consistently registered as a Republican, probably rendering him ineligible for the primary ballot in at least a dozen states. He's backed Hillary and other Democrats whenever the winds shifted that way.

Trump himself told MSNBC's Joe Scarborough all we need to know: that for him, "the best way to win is to win as a Republican. I do not want to 'do independent' at all." But he'll make his calculation based on "how I'm being treated by the Republicans."

The Republicans: Third person.

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; biggaymedia; desperate; establishment; obamavoter; panic; stoptrump; teamromney; trump; votedforobama
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To: Mariner

I am not a Trump fan, but this article is pure bilge. For the HuffPo, costing the GOP the White House is not a bug, it’s a feature.

And this guy’s notion of the ideal Republican is John Anderson?!?! YUCK!


61 posted on 07/30/2015 4:19:13 PM PDT by feralcat
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To: Mariner

Whether he wins or not is yet to be seen but, he sure does not pull any punches on the issues that are important to America. Isn’t it time that we had other than an attorney in Washington? If we ran this company like a business we would be much better off. I wonder how many “you’re fired” slips would go out the first week. You go Donald.


62 posted on 07/30/2015 4:23:16 PM PDT by kempster
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To: Mariner
In the America I grew up in and still believe in tody, I was told anyone could grow up and be president.

There were no restrictions placed by elitists who now believe politicians are a separate class of people above the governed.

63 posted on 07/30/2015 4:32:18 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Mariner

The butthurt is strong in this one.


64 posted on 07/30/2015 4:33:48 PM PDT by Company Man (I've got a Princess Bride quote and I'm not afraid to use it)
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To: Mariner

“From the Entertainment section...”

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs


65 posted on 07/30/2015 4:34:57 PM PDT by GoneSalt
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To: Mariner
Trump isn't even consistently registered as a Republican, probably rendering him ineligible for the primary ballot in at least a dozen states.

Pure fiction.

66 posted on 07/30/2015 4:35:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Mariner

LOL. A bunch of liberals think the GOP is “their” party when it is the eGOP that is their party.

Like we give a rat’s ass what these liberals think!


67 posted on 07/30/2015 4:41:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Mariner

68 posted on 07/30/2015 4:48:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Lee Enfield
"Trump is the monkey wrench in the DC machine. I think he’s alienated too many on the hill to be effective as President..."

Au contraire, if Trump succeeds to the Presidency, these stooges that now occupy the Senate and house will be pissing all over themselves in trying to be of service to him. It won't happen without a groundswell of support from both sides of the populist political spectrum, and if it does it spells the political doom of these charlatans, and that's what they're afraid of

69 posted on 07/30/2015 4:50:43 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: semaj

If Trump gets the nod I’m not taking my vote and going home. I just don’t know if he’ll be a Reagan or a Carter as far as Congress is concerned.


70 posted on 07/30/2015 4:59:44 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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To: alloysteel

In that case, I guess we better let the GOP-wing of the Democrat party nominate another Bush for us.


71 posted on 07/30/2015 5:41:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (To defeat the democRATs, we must first defeat the Republicans.)
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To: Red Steel

45 followers. LOL!


72 posted on 07/30/2015 5:43:57 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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To: Mariner

I know anyone can register as anything they want...

But a Pub who publishes at HuffPo makes me laugh. You, sir, have no standing.


73 posted on 07/30/2015 5:50:45 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Mariner

(time to parse...fun, but time consuming)

“what I find most outrageous is his transparent abuse of my party for expediency’s sake.”

What WE find outrageous is being TAKEN FOR GRANTED by our party, in the name of “civility”. Sorry, but that got us a DICTATOR...we’ll try something new this time.

“Rick Wilson recently pointed out on CNN, as others have, that Trump isn’t even consistently registered as a Republican, probably rendering him ineligible for the primary ballot in at least a dozen states.”

Considering the way the Republican Party has behaved, I doubt ANYONE here blames him. Regardless, there are 45 other states, he can win with them alone.

“He’s backed Hillary and other Democrats whenever the winds shifted that way.”

Anyone building a 10 BILLION DOLLAR real estate empire in NYC will have to pay homage to The Wildebeest, at least if he wants his building permits approved in less than 5 years. We’re willing to forgive him for trying to navigate NYC politics.

“Trump himself told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough all we need to know: that for him, “the best way to win is to win as a Republican.”

A-Hem, how is this a problem?

“I do not want to ‘do independent’ at all.”

Sounds like an OPENING, better jump on it...it may be your last.

“But he’ll make his calculation based on “how I’m being treated by the Republicans.”

Treat him like you treat Jeb, and you boys have NOTHING to worry about.

“The Republicans: Third person. The Republican National Committee should exercise some discretion for a change, and insist that Fox and CNN exclude this opportunistic parasite from the free ride he seeks from the party he so plainly despises. They should bar him from next week’s debate.”

If the RNC feels that winning with Trump is WORSE than losing without him it’s probably time that a LOT of Republicans start to ask who these people really are.

“There is no place in our party or our country for comments that disparage those who have served honorably.”

There is PLENTY of room to disparage people that served honorably, but then went on to SELL OUT this country. They are FAIR GAME if their post-military behavior does not match their (perceived) military behavior.

“Earlier this month, RNC chair Reince Priebus spent an hour attempting to reason with The Donald on his immigration rhetoric and other matters.”

From what Trump said, it went fine. Rinse Previous got the point that the GOP base is SICK of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

“It’s not enough. In fact, Priebus’s most recent gambit-welcoming Trump to the fold, while entreating all candidates on the Republican line to forswear third-party options-sends exactly the wrong message.”

I agree - NO ONE, at this point, should promise a thing to the RNC, at least until they figure out if they even want to win in 2016. Right now the jury is out.

“Despite Trump’s dramatic headline advantage, 80% or so of us Republican primary voters prefer any number of other candidates drawn from the most diverse and obscure slate in memory.”

If the threshold is GREATER than 20% support (i.e., 100%-80%), then the debate will simply be a blank screen. A comment like this one makes me think that he either considers us (i.e., the base) to be TOTAL IDIOTS, or he’s actually a troll, trying to help us. Sadly, it’s probably the first.

“And with methodological problems with recent polls rampant, few recognize that among more active Republican voters, he’s well behind Walker and Rubio, and that nearly one in three party regulars wouldn’t vote for him under any circumstances.”

I don’t see any links on that. Do the “more active Republican voters” get to have their Primary votes counted more, or something?

“How about this for an objective standard: You habitually refer to Republicans in the third person, you’re out of the club. Trump himself gets it, boasting to The Hill, “I’m not in the gang.” It’s one of his top talking points.”

Sucks when someone realizes that Rush’s stick can be VERY EFFECTIVE politically.

“That goes for his backers, too. Though most of Trump’s support will likely prove impetuous and fleeting”

If Trump’s support is “fleeting”, then why are you guys SO INTENT on keeping him out of the debates...he’ll just fade into nothing, if you do nothing...or so you say.

“The risk of a spoilt election from a third-party Trump bid may be even greater than during the ones Ross Perot and Ralph Nader engineered in 1992 and 2000, because 2015 does present Trump with a sliver of a natural constituency.”

Actually that “sliver” is about HALF of the electorate.

“Vulgar things are not new in politics”

CORRECT (finally), but what is NEW is that TRUMP will not bend over and take it...he FIGHTS BACK.

“It is alien to the tradition of passionate but principled activism that runs from Reagan, H.W. and Gingrich, (and) Gov. John Kasich.”

Sorry but Kasich is at about 1%. He is not a Newt and DEFINITELY not a Reagan.

“We can’t sit back and hope it flames out on its own. We must quench it ourselves, in public, right now.”

Yep, that can be done, simply RUN AGAINST DEMOCRATS, rather than trying to clear out Trump and then act a combined single party against this country.

“...was a complicated story implicating hardline ideology, not racially tinged animosity.”

So now it is a RACISM problem. Sorry, we don’t buy it.

“But more recently, modern-day Know-Nothings have been hitching a free ride into my party via the grassroots fervor of legitimate Tea Party conservatism.”

Actually VERY FEW “know-nothings” get anywhere. If Trump is kicking butt, then he’s OBVIOUSLY hit common ground with the Tea Party - what is your problem with that?

“Trump’s explicit ethnic and misogynist vitriol would be unimaginable even to those who produced the infamous “Willie Horton” ad in 1988”

Sorry, but that was FAIR GAME. A woman was KILLED because of a DEMOCRAT that could not understand that some people are PURE EVIL and keep him in jail.

“...much less the controversial comedic spot taunting Harold Ford, Jr. in 2006. We’ve fallen far and fast from our nomination of the man who, whatever his many faults, campaigned as a “compassionate conservative” and took 44% of the Latino vote in 2000.”

Pretty much what EVERY Republican candidate did in 2014, in Texas, and throughout the South. REPUBLICANS, who wanted nothing to do with Open Borders, won 40 to 45% of the Texas vote in EVERY statewide race (see my Profile Page). Nice to know that Mr. Ford could also do that.

“Hell, National Review, the Club for Growth and the Koch brothers have already frozen him out. What is Priebus waiting for?”

Can’t speak for Rince, but I am REALLY STRUGGLING to find a way to be upset with Trump when the BIGGEST FANS OF AMNESTY are opposing him.

“John Anderson’s dull 1980 bid quietly foreshadowed some of the balanced policies that achieved consensus after the 1994 midterms”

John Anderson was a mentally-ill candidate in 1980 that the REPUBLICAN PARTY had dragged out there to try to prevent Reagan from winning. They are NO DIFFERENT today and Anderson, unlike Perot, had absolutely ZERO EFFECT on what happened after that election.

“Trump...now threatens the big tent that can boast of Jindal and Haley and Powell.”

Bowel is a waste of time and hasn’t brought the Republicans A SINGLE VOTE (Obama got 94% of the black vote last time). Jindal and Haley, as far as I know, are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS (or descendants of such), so I don’t know what they have to do with what Trump is referring to.

“The gleemongering Egans on the other side of the aisle may be right. Perhaps we should have acted sooner. But we surely must act now.”

FINALLY, something that I agree with. It’s CLEARLY time to unify under Trump and then take this election to the DEMOCRATS and the MEDIA.

“Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, no squish on immigration...”

I could have saved OVER AN HOUR if I read this first - OBVIOUSLY it was not written by anyone even vaguely familiar with Perry...as we are, here in Texas.


74 posted on 07/30/2015 6:31:03 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Beowulf9

I asked my daughter to sit with me and watch a few of his speeches. She was anti-Trump this morning.

Now she loves the guy and is determined to recruit her friends.

One more for Trump and she’ll bring in at least three more votes.


75 posted on 07/30/2015 6:35:24 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Mariner
Poor Jonathan Funke, he was born with a ramrod up his a$$.

Lighten up Jonathan, didn't you request Trump be on the "entertainment" section of the Huffpo?

5.56mm

76 posted on 07/30/2015 6:40:24 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Mariner

If the RNC excludes Trump from the debate he’d poll even higher the next day.


77 posted on 07/30/2015 6:45:37 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( NASCAR 2015: "Bootlegger to boot licker"--FReeper Crim)
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To: jch10

Huffington Post is “CONCERNED” about republicans! /S


78 posted on 07/30/2015 7:12:30 PM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....others are all in pocket of their rich donors.)
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To: tflabo

Wake up and smell the fear.....


LOL! Wake up and smell the burnt media elites.


79 posted on 07/30/2015 7:13:33 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is this pundit Hugh Hewitt....he was on Hannity, and wants Trump to apologize for his McCain comment. Hugh is not happy Trump is leading from the looks on his face, which looked like he has a severe case of indigestion.


80 posted on 07/30/2015 7:14:42 PM PDT by entropy12 (Make America Great Again!!! Go Trump/Cruz 2016....others are all in pocket of their rich donors.)
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