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To: Mariner

(time to parse...fun, but time consuming)

“what I find most outrageous is his transparent abuse of my party for expediency’s sake.”

What WE find outrageous is being TAKEN FOR GRANTED by our party, in the name of “civility”. Sorry, but that got us a DICTATOR...we’ll try something new this time.

“Rick Wilson recently pointed out on CNN, as others have, that Trump isn’t even consistently registered as a Republican, probably rendering him ineligible for the primary ballot in at least a dozen states.”

Considering the way the Republican Party has behaved, I doubt ANYONE here blames him. Regardless, there are 45 other states, he can win with them alone.

“He’s backed Hillary and other Democrats whenever the winds shifted that way.”

Anyone building a 10 BILLION DOLLAR real estate empire in NYC will have to pay homage to The Wildebeest, at least if he wants his building permits approved in less than 5 years. We’re willing to forgive him for trying to navigate NYC politics.

“Trump himself told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough all we need to know: that for him, “the best way to win is to win as a Republican.”

A-Hem, how is this a problem?

“I do not want to ‘do independent’ at all.”

Sounds like an OPENING, better jump on it...it may be your last.

“But he’ll make his calculation based on “how I’m being treated by the Republicans.”

Treat him like you treat Jeb, and you boys have NOTHING to worry about.

“The Republicans: Third person. The Republican National Committee should exercise some discretion for a change, and insist that Fox and CNN exclude this opportunistic parasite from the free ride he seeks from the party he so plainly despises. They should bar him from next week’s debate.”

If the RNC feels that winning with Trump is WORSE than losing without him it’s probably time that a LOT of Republicans start to ask who these people really are.

“There is no place in our party or our country for comments that disparage those who have served honorably.”

There is PLENTY of room to disparage people that served honorably, but then went on to SELL OUT this country. They are FAIR GAME if their post-military behavior does not match their (perceived) military behavior.

“Earlier this month, RNC chair Reince Priebus spent an hour attempting to reason with The Donald on his immigration rhetoric and other matters.”

From what Trump said, it went fine. Rinse Previous got the point that the GOP base is SICK of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

“It’s not enough. In fact, Priebus’s most recent gambit-welcoming Trump to the fold, while entreating all candidates on the Republican line to forswear third-party options-sends exactly the wrong message.”

I agree - NO ONE, at this point, should promise a thing to the RNC, at least until they figure out if they even want to win in 2016. Right now the jury is out.

“Despite Trump’s dramatic headline advantage, 80% or so of us Republican primary voters prefer any number of other candidates drawn from the most diverse and obscure slate in memory.”

If the threshold is GREATER than 20% support (i.e., 100%-80%), then the debate will simply be a blank screen. A comment like this one makes me think that he either considers us (i.e., the base) to be TOTAL IDIOTS, or he’s actually a troll, trying to help us. Sadly, it’s probably the first.

“And with methodological problems with recent polls rampant, few recognize that among more active Republican voters, he’s well behind Walker and Rubio, and that nearly one in three party regulars wouldn’t vote for him under any circumstances.”

I don’t see any links on that. Do the “more active Republican voters” get to have their Primary votes counted more, or something?

“How about this for an objective standard: You habitually refer to Republicans in the third person, you’re out of the club. Trump himself gets it, boasting to The Hill, “I’m not in the gang.” It’s one of his top talking points.”

Sucks when someone realizes that Rush’s stick can be VERY EFFECTIVE politically.

“That goes for his backers, too. Though most of Trump’s support will likely prove impetuous and fleeting”

If Trump’s support is “fleeting”, then why are you guys SO INTENT on keeping him out of the debates...he’ll just fade into nothing, if you do nothing...or so you say.

“The risk of a spoilt election from a third-party Trump bid may be even greater than during the ones Ross Perot and Ralph Nader engineered in 1992 and 2000, because 2015 does present Trump with a sliver of a natural constituency.”

Actually that “sliver” is about HALF of the electorate.

“Vulgar things are not new in politics”

CORRECT (finally), but what is NEW is that TRUMP will not bend over and take it...he FIGHTS BACK.

“It is alien to the tradition of passionate but principled activism that runs from Reagan, H.W. and Gingrich, (and) Gov. John Kasich.”

Sorry but Kasich is at about 1%. He is not a Newt and DEFINITELY not a Reagan.

“We can’t sit back and hope it flames out on its own. We must quench it ourselves, in public, right now.”

Yep, that can be done, simply RUN AGAINST DEMOCRATS, rather than trying to clear out Trump and then act a combined single party against this country.

“...was a complicated story implicating hardline ideology, not racially tinged animosity.”

So now it is a RACISM problem. Sorry, we don’t buy it.

“But more recently, modern-day Know-Nothings have been hitching a free ride into my party via the grassroots fervor of legitimate Tea Party conservatism.”

Actually VERY FEW “know-nothings” get anywhere. If Trump is kicking butt, then he’s OBVIOUSLY hit common ground with the Tea Party - what is your problem with that?

“Trump’s explicit ethnic and misogynist vitriol would be unimaginable even to those who produced the infamous “Willie Horton” ad in 1988”

Sorry, but that was FAIR GAME. A woman was KILLED because of a DEMOCRAT that could not understand that some people are PURE EVIL and keep him in jail.

“...much less the controversial comedic spot taunting Harold Ford, Jr. in 2006. We’ve fallen far and fast from our nomination of the man who, whatever his many faults, campaigned as a “compassionate conservative” and took 44% of the Latino vote in 2000.”

Pretty much what EVERY Republican candidate did in 2014, in Texas, and throughout the South. REPUBLICANS, who wanted nothing to do with Open Borders, won 40 to 45% of the Texas vote in EVERY statewide race (see my Profile Page). Nice to know that Mr. Ford could also do that.

“Hell, National Review, the Club for Growth and the Koch brothers have already frozen him out. What is Priebus waiting for?”

Can’t speak for Rince, but I am REALLY STRUGGLING to find a way to be upset with Trump when the BIGGEST FANS OF AMNESTY are opposing him.

“John Anderson’s dull 1980 bid quietly foreshadowed some of the balanced policies that achieved consensus after the 1994 midterms”

John Anderson was a mentally-ill candidate in 1980 that the REPUBLICAN PARTY had dragged out there to try to prevent Reagan from winning. They are NO DIFFERENT today and Anderson, unlike Perot, had absolutely ZERO EFFECT on what happened after that election.

“Trump...now threatens the big tent that can boast of Jindal and Haley and Powell.”

Bowel is a waste of time and hasn’t brought the Republicans A SINGLE VOTE (Obama got 94% of the black vote last time). Jindal and Haley, as far as I know, are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS (or descendants of such), so I don’t know what they have to do with what Trump is referring to.

“The gleemongering Egans on the other side of the aisle may be right. Perhaps we should have acted sooner. But we surely must act now.”

FINALLY, something that I agree with. It’s CLEARLY time to unify under Trump and then take this election to the DEMOCRATS and the MEDIA.

“Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, no squish on immigration...”

I could have saved OVER AN HOUR if I read this first - OBVIOUSLY it was not written by anyone even vaguely familiar with Perry...as we are, here in Texas.


74 posted on 07/30/2015 6:31:03 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL

What IS Perry like?

He claims, and O’Reilly didn’t dispute him, that he’s done much to improve Texas economy by lowering taxes (or keeping them low, don’t know which) and other stuff. He talks about transferring power form the feds to the states, which we need desperately. But he, as almost all, fail to bring the Constitution to the center of the discussion in the mandate to cut the feds.

There’s something about Perry though - like he has a veneer on or something - a bit wooden.


85 posted on 07/30/2015 10:44:06 PM PDT by Jim W N
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