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[KY] State forbids pastors calling homosexuality 'sinful'
WND ^ | 7/24/15 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 07/25/2015 12:36:05 PM PDT by markomalley

The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements.

The policy was uncovered by Liberty Counsel, which has sent a letter to Bob Hayter, commissioner of the Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice, demanding that the state religious test be dropped and that a dismissed counselor be reinstated.

“Liberty Counsel writes regarding the blatantly unconstitutional revocation of volunteer prison minister status of ordained Christian minister David Wells, who has provided voluntary spiritual counseling and mentorship to juvenile inmates under the control of the Department of Juvenile Justice. … This revocation was issued by Warren County Regional Juvenile Detention Center on the basis of the April 4, 2014, DJJ Policy 912, which mandates full DJJ support of homosexuality and transvestism.

“With no evidence of any violation of DJJ policy on Mr. Wells’ part, his volunteer status was revoked by the Warren RJDC superintendent because he could not sign a state-mandated statement that homosexuality was not ‘sinful,’ among other things,” the letter said.

The policy states that DJJ staff, volunteers and others “shall not imply or tell LGBTQI juveniles that they are abnormal, deviant, sinful or that they can or should change their sexual orientation or gender identity.”


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: homofascism; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; kentucky; libertycounsel; tyranny
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To: markomalley

Oh that the people who write headlines would take the time necessary to use as many words as necessary to CLEARLY communicate the concepts hinted at in same!


21 posted on 07/25/2015 12:50:55 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: mrsmel

That would be known to those of us who study the scriptures as the way the ‘Mark’ of the beast works.

It’s not a physical mark. It’s the way you must think and act in accords with the state, or one cannot make a living.


22 posted on 07/25/2015 12:52:04 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: markomalley

Totally unconstitutional

Needs to be thrown out by the first judge on the first day.

anyone who voted for this should be ousted!

recalls galore!


23 posted on 07/25/2015 12:53:49 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: markomalley

KY is a lot more liberal than its image, as are her senators and governors.


24 posted on 07/25/2015 12:54:03 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Today though 66 million+ have unbounded faith in the “goodness” of the U.S. government.


25 posted on 07/25/2015 12:55:10 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You are free to exercise any religion you wish in the properly zoned structure for religious worship on the day of worship during regulated worship hours, and hear the officially approved message from the licensed pastor.

Enjoy the blessings of religious freedom graciously granted you by the state, comrade!


26 posted on 07/25/2015 12:56:53 PM PDT by henkster (Where'd my tagline go?)
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To: markomalley

Its not the pastor who called it sinful. He is just passing along information.


27 posted on 07/25/2015 12:58:24 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Secret Agent Man

>>The state can’t make program rules that infringe on the Constitutional rights of citizens, period.

Its not 1950 anymore. Period.

In fact, its not even 30 AD anymore.

“If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.”

The house of America is no longer worthy. Spread the gospel to people who will hear it. Those who do not wish to hear it know who Jesus is, and they have chosen another. There’s no reason to force it on them. Even Jesus said so.


28 posted on 07/25/2015 12:58:24 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: INVAR

Yes, and for those splitting hairs by saying that the pastors don’t have a right to hold these Biblical views, what of banks like Chase requiring employees to fill out questionaires-non-anonymously-asking them if they are sodomite/himosexual or if they are “allies”? How are their private views of homosexuality relevant to their jobs in the private sector? If they can be dismissed for their private views not conforming to support for the sodomite agenda, how is that not infringement of their right to free practice of religion? How could they separate their views more than by merely holding them privately, but that’s too much for the sodomite agenda, everyone will be forced to make their stance public, and woe betide those whose beliefs can’t and do not support the sodomite agenda?


29 posted on 07/25/2015 1:00:47 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bryanw92

I wiuld say Liberty Ciunsel disagrees wuth yiu, andgiven their win/loss record, so do almost all the courts they argue in front of.


30 posted on 07/25/2015 1:03:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: markomalley

No folks, really. Electing lesser evil is just fine. No worries at all.


31 posted on 07/25/2015 1:06:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TigersEye

Notyet. First attempts are in thecourts. Liberty Counsel almost always wins ther cases. Amazing track record.


32 posted on 07/25/2015 1:06:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Bryanw92

****Spread the gospel to people who will hear it.****

The Pastor is not there to spread the Gospel to the people administering the youth program, he is there to spread the Gospel to youth IN the program. They have the constitutional right to counsel from Pastors as much as anyone else. They are not wards of the State.


33 posted on 07/25/2015 1:07:27 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, not yet. But as a general principle.


34 posted on 07/25/2015 1:09:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: markomalley

State-sanctioned Bible burning is right around the corner.


35 posted on 07/25/2015 1:09:31 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Secret Agent Man

Win/loss records for lawyers are just an indication of how good they are at picking and choosing what to take to trial. It isn’t like a football schedule where you have to play the game even if you know you’re going to get creamed.

Don’t be fooled by lawyer statistics.


36 posted on 07/25/2015 1:09:53 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: markomalley

The communist Chinese had a state-approved “catholic” church that was never recognized by the Vatican. If a Chinese belonged to the real Roman Catholic Church, he risked being imprisoned.

Coming soon to a state near you.


37 posted on 07/25/2015 1:09:55 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: markomalley

We knew this was going to happen.


38 posted on 07/25/2015 1:10:56 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: ResponseAbility

>>The Pastor is not there to spread the Gospel to the people administering the youth program, he is there to spread the Gospel to youth IN the program. They have the constitutional right to counsel from Pastors as much as anyone else. They are not wards of the State.

But they wouldn’t be in a “program” if they had options to walk away either.

We don’t need more cultural Christianity. That is what weakens our theology. We need people who are committed enough to seek Jesus and not have him force-fed through a “program”.


39 posted on 07/25/2015 1:12:51 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Vaquero

Yeah, but this is about the state hiring pastors in a counseling role.

Something completely different.


40 posted on 07/25/2015 1:13:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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