Posted on 07/25/2015 12:36:05 PM PDT by markomalley
The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements.
The policy was uncovered by Liberty Counsel, which has sent a letter to Bob Hayter, commissioner of the Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice, demanding that the state religious test be dropped and that a dismissed counselor be reinstated.
“Liberty Counsel writes regarding the blatantly unconstitutional revocation of volunteer prison minister status of ordained Christian minister David Wells, who has provided voluntary spiritual counseling and mentorship to juvenile inmates under the control of the Department of Juvenile Justice. … This revocation was issued by Warren County Regional Juvenile Detention Center on the basis of the April 4, 2014, DJJ Policy 912, which mandates full DJJ support of homosexuality and transvestism.
“With no evidence of any violation of DJJ policy on Mr. Wells’ part, his volunteer status was revoked by the Warren RJDC superintendent because he could not sign a state-mandated statement that homosexuality was not ‘sinful,’ among other things,” the letter said.
The policy states that DJJ staff, volunteers and others “shall not imply or tell LGBTQI juveniles that they are abnormal, deviant, sinful or that they can or should change their sexual orientation or gender identity.”
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I agree. They are going to notice in a few years that the only “pastors” they have left are the worthless ones not worthy of the name.
Okay where is any of your evidence that they are?
In Biblical prophecy, those are metaphors. As previously supplied in the verses I gave above, "forehead' is a metaphor for how a person thinks. In addition 'Right Hand' in biblical narrative is almost always used in reference to an action (Exodus 15:6, Psalm 118:16, Isaiah 48:13, Psalm 89:13, Judges 5:26, Revelation 5:7).
Whether or not the End Time 'Mark of the Beast' will have a physical component or not is not as important to God as the way a person thinks and acts. In human history, the tyrannical and despotic regimes of men that demand the worship of their subjects often required total obeisance and servitude to the state.
We can clearly see the method of this 'mark' in use right now in terms of the homo agenda and the persecution being levied against persons and businesses that refuse to either think or act in accordance with accepting that mark. They are being prohibited from buying and selling (making a living) because they refused to think and act in accepting the homo agenda.
Wow, they didn’t even wait for the Feds to do it.
Queue the Casablanca pics!
Coming from the ‘betters’ (State and Fed), whom can’t comprehend (nor follow) “shall not be infringed”, “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”, Takings vs. welfare, income tax vs. 13th, etc. etc.
Just like Democrats in congress.
They never compromise on their issues, but are always happy to see Republicans go “bipartisan” on theirs.
It is worth considering that the way a man thinks and the way a man acts are sometimes associated with his actions. I’m not real sure the ancients subscribed thinking to the ‘head’ as much as to the heart, but setting that discussion aside, I have to consider how this would work out.
A man comes into a store and is asked how he thinks. Ok, he has to describe how he adores the Beast. then he gets to buy.
Another man comes in and he does something with his hand in that store to show that his actions support the Beast.
What is it that he does?
>>Okay where is any of your evidence that they are?
You admitted that they need to “prioritize” their caseload because of limited resources. Every attorney does this. Call them up and ask them if they take on every case, regardless of whether they think they can win it. The might take on a forlorn hope once in a while to make a point, but getting a VOLUNTEER his job back is not a hill worth dying on.
“good is called evil, and evil, good”
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>> “The Bible says it is a physical mark and even tells where it will be placed” <<
Quite correct!
It also tells what the mark will contain.
It is the mark of a man who demands to be called God, and to be worshiped.
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That’s the devil’s game
The following is NOT endorsing the State’s position at all, but trying to help all understand their LEGAL position.
“Illegal” and terms such as that operate within the framework of Law
“Insane’ (for example) is medical framework term.
“Speed’ exists within a mathematical framework.
“Sin/Sinful’ exist within a religious framework.
1; To use the term “sinful” in describing GLQTDDMMEUAW!@#! behavior is trying to “impress’ the speaker’s religious beliefs upon the listener, who may, under the 1st Amendment, wish to be free of religion, as well as to have freedom of religion, both of which are rights guaranteed to everyone under the USC.
2: The State’s second argument would be, “our house, our rules.”
The above, not to agree, but to help all understand the LEGAL issues.
And so, what do they say, the law has become an ass? (If there is no hole in all of this which isn’t 100% clear, that is part of the fun you get when the USSC Makes Yet Another Law).
More like State REQUIRED Bible burning is right around the corner.
...btw, isn't this where Sen. Mitch McConnell (Yertle The Turtle- KY) hails from?
I wouldn't be quick to judge the state of Kentucky itself as being Liberal. Many states are conservative outside the larger cities. It's the Liberal population clusters that get the most representation though many times. IOW I doubt the commissioner has the guts to go tell a group of say Bell or Harlan County citizens that preachers acting as chaplains and counselors to youth in state custody that they can not talk about sin especially homosexuality being wrong. I'm not from Kentucky BTW but I'm south of those counties :>}
Some of the worst policies I've seen have been written by state agencies and officials overseeing for one reason or another children in state custody. By that I mean the agency policies involved. Religion is tossed out the window and political correctness rules.
A child in the Juvenile penal system has serious behavioral and emotional issues. A secular approach sanctioned by the states without allowing for including faith in a higher being {GOD the Creator} is one doomed to failure. That is true in the Correctional institutes as well as the Foster Care System. You can't mention GOD or better tread lightly even with kin in your custody but Butch and Dyke or male equivalents are allowed not only to approach and counsel these kids but take them into their homes to raise them with state blessings and encouragement.
Homosexuality is the manifestation of a religion that's driven by deception. The religion being either satanic cult ritual in origin or the values espoused in secular humanism of basically reason in your mind to do as you please with no moral or religious absolutes. If GOD doesn't convict us through conscience then how can we ever know right from wrong?
It's sad but the current administrative, Judicial, and legislative, portions of juvenile justice is in shambles even worse than on a national level we see in our federal government. To anyone I would ask how was right from wrong ordained? How were those boundaries set? Even primitive natives realize we live under a higher power of an established right and wrong even though they have not yet learned of GOD as known in Judeo/Christian context.
And as Jesus showed in the the Luke 21 discourse, Prophecy can be quite literal. When Titus and Vespasian encircled Jerusalem then waited nine months to raze the city, it is estimated that most of the converts to Christianity escaped the final destruction of Jerusalem because they believed what Jesus told them to do when they saw the city with armies camped round about it. Jesus spoke in 33 AD and Jerusalem was destroyed a more than a million were slaughtered there by the Romans, in 70AD. So, the prophecy Jesus gave was fulfilled 37 years after He gave it, but He prophesied it happening. He went on from the Temple where He gave the Luke 21 discourse, over to the Mount of Olives where He gave the special Discourse to just four of His followers regarding the end times..
No!
Revelation 20:4
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
A way of thinking can be changed, but not a permanent mark.
This will require an irreversible decision, not a compromise nor vacillation from which one can have a change of heart.
The law is funny in a way. For example, all the legal points SCOTUS accepted in Obergefell v. Hodges, the gay marriage case, clearly apply in a number of polygamy cases cases headed for the Supremes.
Our system is horrible inefficient, slow, wrong at times, etc, but also better than any other ever invented... excapt, of course, if you and i were allowed to rule by Judicial Fiat!
:)
The system slowly has come under the reign of secularists.
Remember that the idea of a general Christianity being an “establishment of religion” is a relatively recent innovation.
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