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Ted Cruz: ‘Star Trek’s Captain Kirk was probably a Republican
MSNBC.com ^ | 7/24/2015 | Benjamin Landy

Posted on 07/24/2015 10:38:00 AM PDT by GoneSalt

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz offered some surprisingly strong opinions on the politics of “Star Trek” in an interview published Thursday in The New York Times Magazine, arguing “it is quite likely that Kirk is a Republican and Picard is a Democrat.”

“Let me do a little psychoanalysis,” Cruz says when asked about the fictional space captains from the landmark 1960s television series and its ”Next Generation” follow-up, which aired some 30 years later. “If you look at ‘’Star Trek: The Next Generation,’ it basically split James T. Kirk into two people. Picard was Kirk’s rational side, and William Riker was his passionate side. I prefer a complete captain. To be effective, you need both heart and mind.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; kirk; tedcruz; texas
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To: tumblindice

OH NO Mudd was Bill Clinton he had all the babes REMEMBER I Mudd Mudd Women


101 posted on 07/24/2015 1:44:21 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: driftdiver

102 posted on 07/24/2015 1:46:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Apparently he supported Senator Tsongas:

C-SPAN Announcer: Now, C-SPAN continues its coverage of the 1992 presidential campaign with “Road to the White House.”

[Video of the exterior of a Marriott hotel.]

C-SPAN Announcer: On Friday, former California Governor Jerry Brown spoke to the 17th Annual “Star Trek” Convention at the O’Hare Marriott Hotel. Our C-SPAN camera — the only camera we have — was there, as was our microphone.

[Fade to Jerry Brown at the convention hall podium, addressing an audience of very geeky “Star Trek” fans. He speaks with great seriousness and intensity.]

Jerry Brown: Thank you. Thank you, Trekkers. Thank you very much. Now, I want to say that 23 years ago this fall, “Star Trek” was canceled. And, and I think it’s a shame and a travesty that we don’t have a single prime-time science fiction show on our network schedule today. And in the Sixties, if you look at what we did out there in California, we had “Outer Limits,” we had “Twilight Zone,” “Star Trek,” as well as “Lost in Space,” and now all we have is “Star Trek: The Next Generation,” and that’s in syndication. Now, some people say there’s not enough audience for science fiction on television, but if you go back and look at — and look at when “Star Trek” was canceled, it had a 21 percent share of the audience. Now today, that’s a hit. That’s a “Knots Landing” or a “Tequila and Bonetti.” Now, see, now, we have this giant, bloated Nielsen system in place, and it just perpetuates itself. Now, but under my plan — under my plan, what we have is a mandatory 13 percent flat audience share, so that shows like “Doctor Who” or “Alien Nation” can stay on and have a chance to develop, and you won’t have bankrupt programming, you know, like “Matlock” with Andy Griffith — and I’m sorry, but he hasn’t had a new idea in twenty years, and I’ll say it to Andy Griffith’s face. I mean, he may be an honorable man, but what he’s doing is just business as usual, and I’d like to see “Matlock” off the air. So that we take that “Matlock” money, right there, and you bring in your best people — Isaac Asimov, your Carl Sagan, some puppeteers — and you put more fantasy scripts in development, because I think R&D is a very important part of getting science fiction shows on the air. And if you agree with me, call my 800 number [he holds up a placard with the number written on it] “1-800-NOT-FLAKY.”

[Video of Marriott exterior.]

C-SPAN Announcer: Later that day, former Massachusetts Senator Paul Tsongas addressed the same gathering.

[Fade to Paul Tsongas at the podium. He speaks in a very croaky, high-pitched voice, and constantly gestures with his hands.]

Paul Tsongas: Okay. Okay, now, now, earlier — yeah, Jerry Brown talked, yeah, about “Star Trek,” okay? Y’know, and, and, he put himself forward as, y’know, the “Star Trek” candidate, okay? [Pauses to cough] Okay, but I was, y’know, the first candidate to, uh, carry around the “Star Trek” lunchbox, okay? [He holds up said lunchbox] Okay? Now, when Jerry Brown talks about “Star Trek,” okay, what he forgets is that I wrote a book, okay? A book. And it’s here. It’s a book. [He holds up the book] It’s here. It’s “The Insider’s Guide to ‘Star Trek,’” written by Paul Tsongas, okay, with introduction by DeForest Kelley, okay? So, y’know, read the book, okay, and you decide, y’know, who is the candidate, y’know, who’s one of you? I say it’s — I say it’s me. It’s me, okay? Okay. Are there any, um, any questions? You, sir, you have a question?

[A Trekkie raises his hand and gets up. He has the same voice as Tsongas.]

Trekkie # 1: Yeah, I just want to say that you’re the first candidate I really feel I can trust, okay? It seems that all the other candidates just want to be Santa Claus.

Paul Tsongas: I don’t — I don’t want to be Santa Claus.

Trekkie # 1: I know. I know. I know. I know.

Paul Tsongas: Bill Clinton wants to be Santa Claus. I don’t want to be Santa Claus. Santa Claus was not a leader, okay? Captain Kirk was a leader. I want to be Captain Kirk, okay?

[The audience applauds. Fade back to Marriott exterior.]

C-SPAN Announcer: Later, Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton also spoke to the “Star Trek” Convention.

[Fade to Bill Clinton at the podium.]

Bill Clinton: Thank you. Now, I’m going to be honest with you. I’m not going to stand up here and pretend that I know as much about “Star Trek” as Senator Tsongas or Governor Brown. I’ve always enjoyed the show. But I admit that I didn’t get to see it as much as I would have liked when it was first on. And I’ve been very candid about that. As I’ve explained, “Star Trek” was on during a very difficult time in my marriage. But since then, Hillary and I have worked things out and we’ve managed to see most of the episodes in syndication, and I’ve made no secret about that. Yes, you have a question?

[A Trekkie gets up, flashing the Vulcan hand salute.]

Trekkie # 2: Yes, Governor, what is your reaction to the news that Leonard Nimoy has endorsed Senator Tsongas?

Bill Clinton: [surprised] What?

Trekkie # 2: Well, you know — the announcement that Leonard Nimoy is backing Senator Tsongas.

Bill Clinton: [angered] Well, that is a new low in backstabbing! After all his talk about integrity — it’s just a cheap actor’s stunt! And he’s no better than Shatner! He’s no better than Shatner! [He smashes his fists on the podium, destroying it, and then begins kicking what’s left of it.]


103 posted on 07/24/2015 1:49:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GBA

I haven’t had a horse of my own since I left home-a ranch to go to college in the city-but I can attest to the truth of that statement. I do ride with my neighbor-they have two horses-whenever the opportunity presents itself-there are trails in the woods near the river-it is very relaxing.


104 posted on 07/24/2015 1:51:13 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: GoneSalt
Kirk knew the value of the threat of war. In A Taste of Armageddon, two sides waged a war where no property was destroyed. When computers tallied presumed "hits," an appropriate number of citizens would report as requested to be orderly extinguished. Kirk destroyed the computers, this promising real damage.

"I've given you back the horrors of war. The Vendikans now assume that you've broken your agreement and that you're preparing to wage real war with real weapons. They'll want do the same. Only the next attack they launch will do a lot more than count up numbers in a computer. They'll destroy cities, devastate your planet. You of course will want to retaliate. If I were you, I'd start making bombs. Yes, Councilman, you have a real war on your hands. You can either wage it with real weapons, or you might consider an alternative. Put an end to it. Make peace."

While maybe not a republican, he certainly wasn't a demo rat. Most likel conservative.

105 posted on 07/24/2015 2:46:23 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: blueunicorn6
"The Tribbles were Democrats."

Tribbles were "illegal aliens." Scotty's solution to The Trouble with the Tribbles should be required reading.


106 posted on 07/24/2015 2:48:26 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Set phasers to stunning!
107 posted on 07/24/2015 2:52:11 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: henkster

Holy crap, he lost his driving finger?


108 posted on 07/24/2015 2:55:10 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: skeeter

Shatner is definitely not a leftist. He is mostly a libertarian.


109 posted on 07/24/2015 3:11:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: longtermmemmory

Boston Legal?


110 posted on 07/24/2015 3:13:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Kartographer

We need to play “Cowboys and Muslims”.


111 posted on 07/24/2015 3:13:59 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

The real Bill Shatner is a big wannabe cowboy, and collector of western art and memorabilia.

He despises government.


112 posted on 07/24/2015 3:19:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

OK I’ll buy that. But he sounded to me like a lib on his Biography Channel program.


113 posted on 07/24/2015 3:21:38 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Vigilanteman

Scottie’s best line: “The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank.”


114 posted on 07/24/2015 4:05:33 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: longtermmemmory

Good point. Kirk says I’m from Iowa, doesn’t say born there. But there is plaque in Riverside now commemorating it as the birth place of JTK.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKqlZf9pUQ


115 posted on 07/24/2015 5:48:50 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: GoneSalt

I don’t have any idea of his politics but William Shatner wrote an article in “Guns” magazine in the 60s I guess.

It was about him growing up in a rural area in Canada and using his .22 rifle. About the only thing I remember is he once almost shot a grizzly with it. I can’t remmeber why he didn’t but he was later glad that he didn’t.


116 posted on 07/24/2015 6:17:47 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
That was a great line. It was also spot on!

I'm trying to remember the episode. Was that the one that had two planets in the same solar system fighting a war electronically with the targets hit required to report to a disintegration chamber in 3 days?

117 posted on 07/24/2015 9:00:28 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: yarddog

He’s very fortunate that he didn’t!


118 posted on 07/24/2015 9:01:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Vigilanteman
That was a great line. It was also spot on!
I'm trying to remember the episode. Was that the one that had two planets in the same solar system fighting a war electronically with the targets hit required to report to a disintegration chamber in 3 days?


Yes, I think someone already mentioned it it's “A Taste of Armageddon” one of the best episodes. It's the same one where Kirk tells Scotty to carry out General order 24 in 2 hours. I just would have been believable if Kirk had given the order to anyone else, especially Sulu. Kirk and Scotty had that Reagan style of ‘we are just crazy enough to do it’ diplomacy.
119 posted on 07/25/2015 8:51:02 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: henkster
My boyhood hero. He is straight up Tea Party. Great Kirk quotes: “You said you wanted Freedom, it's time you learned that freedom isn't a gift it has to be earned.”
“Without freedom of choice there is no creativity the body dies.”
And, reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and the whole preamble to the Constitution.
120 posted on 07/25/2015 11:49:06 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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