Posted on 07/19/2015 5:52:22 PM PDT by usafa92
John McCain is an American hero. Although we have some policy disagreements, I'm proud to serve alongside him.
Cruz should have stayed out of it. McCain has attacked Cruz numerous times. It is more than just differences in policies. McCain hates conservatives or anyone that stands up against him.
“It’s quite possible that a man may perform bravely in one moment or mission, and be despicable after that.”
Benedict Arnold comes to mind, lol. The classic example.
The history of 3rd party candidacies just isn't good. Our system, like it or not, is just not set up to accommodate it. In a winner take all system with no chance of coalitions, voters tend to "come home" to one or the other leg of the 2 party system. People vote against someone or the opposition party as much as they vote for a candidate or party (perhaps more). It is unlikely Perot's numbers would have remained that inflated.
Perot was erratic and a conspiracy theorist, as the election drew nearer people would consider those things more and more as the reality of actually electing the guy hit home. The sad thing is that he drew so many votes from the right and pretty much handed the White House to the Clinton's. Seriously, Perot was a nutter, no way around it when you look at the ridiculous conspiracies he was tossing around and yet there are probably quite a few people here who voted for him (my guess some of those same people would do it again with Trump).
I'm sorry to say this because I don't care for Romney, but he is right about the 47% thing. When you add up all their victim groups, minorities, etc, the Democrats really do start with about 47% or perhaps a bit more right now. If Trump ran indie he might, MIGHT, get a couple % of those (though I doubt it) leaving the Democrat at say 45%ish. Let's say Hillary is such a bad candidate that it even drops to 42% Dem turnout. The Republican is certainly not going to get less than 25% of the vote, especially considering how many Republicans in polls say they would never vote Trump. So let's say they run Jeb and get only 25%. That still means Trump only gets 33% of the vote even with that few % of nominal Democrats and some people who normally sit out. Those numbers would result in an electoral landslide for Democrats. That is the best case scenario too. The far more likely scenario is that the Republican scores much better and Trump winds up with 5-10% pulling mostly from the right of center. Again, a win for Democrats.
I just don't see it. Every election cycle this indie talk comes up and every election cycle said indie either implodes or it never materializes. The only way a Trump indie bid works is if someone on the left also runs indie and is equally as popular with the left sphere of voters. Like if Bernie Sanders decides to go 3rd party (he is actually a Socialist as it is). If you had 4 candidates, all reasonably equally popular, then yeah, you could have a real interesting election.
I’m not talking about tge media. Read what I said if you want to comment
Ted is playing politics pure and simple. There was no need to make any comment whatsoever. Especially after Cruz went to see Donald this week. Either Cruz is playing the GOPe game or maybe Donald wasn’t playing ball with Ted. Either way, it’s never a good thing to come down on (or appear to be on) the side of McCain.
I don't think Trump will run as an independent unless the RNC and the other candidates and Rinos treat him so shabbily that he runs out of revenge. But idiots like McCain and Rove and a few others could accomplish it.
And nothing will convince me that Perot could not have won in 1992 had he followed through on the support he'd won and run a solid campaign until election day.
Cruz and McCain are already political foes. No one in the Senate apparatus likes Cruz or Mike Lee.
Cruz is a senator until he gets elected president. If he does not get the nod and McCain gets re-elected then it's back to status quo - McCain remain a scourge and Cruz is there to fight him.
He's not going to fight Donald's fight so he can score points with the McCain haters. He doesn't have to.....all of us that despise McCain (I am certainly one of them) would take the side of man like Cruz all day, every day even if Cruz never says out loud what we say to each other here.
It appears kissing McCains' butt is not working out well for Cruz.
"They were elected, nobody believes that there was a corrupt election, anything else," McCain said. "But I also think that when, you know, it's always the wacko birds on right and left that get the media megaphone."
Asked to clarify, McCain said he was referencing "Rand Paul, Cruz, Amash, whoever."
Amen to that.
I'll add my short thought. I think Cruz is very INTENTIONAL about what he says or does. He's building a case for himself.
Here's WHY I say that, even though you may not agree.
I reviewed some of the 9 cases Ted Cruz has plead to the U.S. Supreme Court. In some of those case he made statements early on that appeared to be offsetting to his own case, only to use them later to solidify his case.
He has plead NINE case in front of the Supreme Court and he has WON ALL NINE.
At this point I have to believe Cruz is intentionally steering strong and steady toward his goal of gaining the nomination.
Read Sharyl Attkisson: Washington Post Smeared Donald Trump; Misrepresented His Comments on John McCain
Amen to that.
I'll add my short thought. I think Cruz is very INTENTIONAL about what he says or does. He's building a case for himself.
Here's WHY I say that, even though you may not agree.
I reviewed some of the 9 cases Ted Cruz has plead to the U.S. Supreme Court. In some of those case he made statements early on that appeared to be offsetting to his own case, only to use them later to solidify his case.
He has plead NINE different cases in front of the Supreme Court and he has WON ALL NINE.
At this point I have to believe Cruz is intentionally steering strong and steady toward his goal of gaining the nomination.
Well is certainly hurt his creditability by siding with McCain. He might have scored a few points with the GOPe but his lost a lot of grass roots tea party type votes. And after his TPA flip flop he needed badly to shore up his conservative base. I think this very bad mistake finishes him this election cycle. He will be reelected here in Texas but he is going to take some heat over this.
Yes, all the other Republican candidates are piling on. What a waste of time.
Communist Chinese Internet intel spooks are likely reading this scratching their heads wondering what Yankee nick mean. Maybe cryptic message. Thanks for the humor nick. It's always fun.
Ted would have been asked about this anyway...
Besides, I love how Trumpers now condemn Cruz for these comments...
While OMITTING that their guy said FOUR times that McCain is a war hero.
So, is Trump wrong on that too, then?
So, since he said McCain was a war hero, and TRUMP said the same thing...
Is Trump kissing his butt too, or do you just drink the same kool-aid as the others?
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