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Flashback: Obama cuts 2008 Selective Service stamp in half...
7/18/15 | me

Posted on 07/18/2015 12:53:28 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001

...and inverted the '08 portion to read '80, then stamped the bottom of a fake selective service form as if he really filled it out. Sheriff Joe's Posse proved that all forms had the entire year in the stamp....but not odumbo's.

When, pray tell, will ANY of the media do their job and search out obamas's fake documents and confront him with it????


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cheat; deadhorse; lie; naturalborncitizen; nerogermanicustroll; obama; ss
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To: CivilWarBrewing

This will have as much traction as his birth certificate and hopefully without a clerk being the only one die in an off shore water borne plane landing


21 posted on 07/18/2015 2:10:19 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Raising these questions is racist, which is worse than being Hitler.


22 posted on 07/18/2015 3:06:56 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: gorush

I can answer all these questions about the birth certificate with...

You are a racist, nannie-nannie-boo-boo.


23 posted on 07/18/2015 3:09:50 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: Pollster1

I don’t care whether he really is a “natural born citizen”
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Think about what you are saying? Don’t you know this is a Constitutional mandate? The highest law in land is what he has fraudulently violated to gain office. If that is not a high crime or misdemeanor, nothing is.


24 posted on 07/18/2015 3:16:32 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: gorush

I have a 1960 Webster’s dictionary with a gazetteer. It lists Kenya (”formerly East Africa Protectorate”).


25 posted on 07/18/2015 4:05:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Maybe the official stamping the forms had not bothered to correct the date from the day before. After all, what difference did it make?

Were Indonesian citizens required to register?

26 posted on 07/18/2015 4:09:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

That official would be a postal worker and the date stamp is a very important part of that job. And anyone here legally would be required to register.


27 posted on 07/18/2015 4:23:40 PM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH
Maybe the postal worker was stoned, or hung over. I recall once seeing an incorrect postmark date (I think it was marked "FEB 29" in a year that was not a leap year).

That reminds me...I heard a talk recently by a World War II veteran who will celebrate his 23rd birthday next year. He was born on February 29, 1924.

28 posted on 07/18/2015 4:38:52 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Pollster1; spacejunkie

yep, that stamp “80” is odd-looking.

also check out the day of the month it was filled out, in the lower left corner..... July 30.

And the postmark says July 29th.

Somebody (the forger) goofed....


29 posted on 07/19/2015 12:46:00 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Verginius Rufus; GregNH

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions/

other forms from that era have the “1980” four digit year, not the “80”.


30 posted on 07/19/2015 12:51:23 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Verginius Rufus

So he, and everyone else, was stoned from Jan 1 1980 when they changed the year until the end of July.


31 posted on 07/19/2015 3:52:26 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“Maybe the postal worker was stoned, or hung over.”

Maybe the postal worker was a space alien that looked like a cross between a giant tree frog and a centipede.

If we’re doing evidence free speculation, let’s go big and have fun with it.


32 posted on 07/19/2015 6:07:40 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: spacejunkie2001

In 2008, PJ Media wrote to the Selective Service Administration of the Bush Administration to inquire about Obama’s draft registration status and got this response:
Mr. Owens,
Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.
His registration number is 61-1125539-1.
Daniel Amon
Public Affairs Specialist
http://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-did-obama-actually-register-for-selective-service/2/#undefined


33 posted on 07/19/2015 4:20:48 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: CivilWarBrewing

It would be a good idea to lodge with a prosecuting attorney a formal CRIMINAL complaint for forgery which would lead to a grand jury investigation with a panel of average American citizens reviewing the evidence to see if it is solid enough to issue indictments.
All the previous attempts have been civil complaints not criminal complaints.


34 posted on 07/19/2015 4:50:08 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: rdcbn

The problem is that the state of Hawaii, under both the Republican Administration of former Governor Linda Lingle and the Democrat administration of Governor Neal Abercrombie continually issued statements of validation for the abstract computer print out short form and the PDF digital reproduction of the long form.

Under Article IV, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the “Full faith and credit clause” whatever public record a state says is official and authentic will be accepted in every other state.

There have been eight verification statements by various officials of the state of Hawaii:
1) The first authenticity statement by Hawaii Department of Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino, MD. issued October 31, 2008:
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/08-93.pdf
2) Second authenticity statement by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, MD. issued July 27, 2009:
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/09-063.pdf
3) Televised interview with Dr. Fukino on Obama birth certificate authenticity. http://youtu.be/e9D4n6_Uifk
4) Verification of authenticity press release, state of Hawaii, issued April 27, 2011:
http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
5) Certified Letter of Verification from Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics prepared for Arizona Secretary of State: http://archive.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf
6) Certified Letter of Verification from Registrar Alvin T. Onaka prepared for Kansas Secretary of State:
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/106576604
7) Certified Letter of Verification prepared at the request of the defense from Registrar Alvin T. Onaka for the Mississippi eligibility challenge, U.S. District Court Judge Henry T. Wingate, Southern District of Mississippi:
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/96289285
(See exhibits on last two pages of the Motion To Supplement Counsel.
8) Radio interview transcript, Governor Linda Lingle of Hawaii naming Kapi’olani Hospital as the Barack Obama birthplace:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html


35 posted on 07/19/2015 5:05:01 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Here’s what finally succeeded in convincing me Little Barry was born in HI. It was when famed researcher and big time Obama fan David Maraniss went to HI, beat every bush and left no stone unturned, and actually found people who remembered a pregnant Stanley Ann in HI during those crucial nine months. Of course one would expect no less; if she’d been there all that time, someone would remember her. But it took Maraniss with his formidable research skills to actually locate these people. He succeeded where others had failed.

If even Maraniss, with his exceptional talents, had failed to locate even one person who remembered SAD being in HI during her pregnancy, I’d have concluded she wasn’t there. But since he located eye witnesses, who can doubt she was really there?

Lol.


36 posted on 07/19/2015 5:51:09 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus
I am aware that the State of Hawaii has certified the documents.

This certification was done by Loretta Fuddy so she would be the one who is responsible for any inaccuracies in the certification and she is the one who would have to take the fall for any false statements regarding the certification.

Unfortunately, Ms Fuddy died in a small plane crash. Due to the occurrence of that freak accident, she is unavailable to comment

And of course, if there is ever any serious scrutiny of the documents and they are found to fabrications, she will be the one blamed for any fabrications and be the one held accountable. Every one else involved in the case will proclaim that they are merely unwitting victims of whatever Fuddy

Since the documents are legally described only as abstracted copies, anyone else implicated in the fabrication of the documents can claim that they were simply adding or subtracting information to produce what is clearly described as an abstracted copy of a document, which is precisely the legal definition of an abstracted document, and normally a legal thing to do.

Is that enough to circumvent any charges of forgery or fraud if it ever goes to court?

Who knows. Ploys like this worked to the Clintons and Hillary is the odds on favorite to be the next President. SO far it has also worked for the Obama's on other issues.

However, if anyone wanted to use smart Harvard lawyers to engineer wiggle room in an attempt to mitigate and shield people putting forth false documents from criminal conviction, this is one of the methods.

Kind of like what the meaning of is, is.

FWIW, Governor Neal Abercrombie has publicly stated that Obama’s birth certificate can not be found in the Hawaii birth records so it will be very difficult to verify that the document has been in any way altered.

In order to establish the act of any illegal alteration of documents, one must have the original to prove the document has been altered, but that original document is not available for comparison.

This will make any prosecution problematic because the defense attorney will blame the State of Hawaii for it's careless storage of documents. The State of Hawaii will point the finger at Loretta Fuddy, and blame her for being sloppy with documents and losing them.

No one else will ever be held accountable for the inexplicable inability to locate the originals in the digital or microfilmed archives

The lawyers will make the case that the inability to produce the original document prevents his client from being able to defend themselves and receive a fair trial.

The attorney will then ask the judge to dismiss the charges for lack of evidence and the sympathetic judge will do so while expressing his frustration and extreme reluctance but claiming he ultimately had no choice.

Everyone who is furious about the misleading of the American people and the fact that no one will ever be exposed or held accountable will be denounced as crazy birthers and told to move on, because the issue has finally been settled once and for all.

Republicans in Congress will throw up their hands and say their hands are tied and there is nothing they can do.

37 posted on 07/19/2015 6:20:56 PM PDT by rdcbn (imee)
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To: Fantasywriter

For the benefit of the uninitiated, neither Maraniss nor any of the other Obama-friendly biographers who spent serious research time in HI have uncovered even a questionable, unreliable witness—much less a solid, believable one—who places Stanley Ann in HI for any portion of her pregnancy or the weeks following the supposed birth.


38 posted on 07/19/2015 6:30:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter
Counterfactual history can be fun.

This morning C-SPAN3 replayed an event about WWII (originally aired May 4, 2015). David Kennedy, history professor at Stanford, was one of the speakers. He recounted a conversation where he was asked what difference it would have made to world history if on Nov. 22, 1963, Nikita Khrushchev had been assassinated and not John F. Kennedy.

Before he could answer, the man offered this: Aristotle Onassis would not have married Mrs. Khrushchev.

39 posted on 07/19/2015 7:09:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: rdcbn

The certification of all vital records in Hawaii is done by Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D., the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics.
When Loretta Fuddy was Director of Health, she approved the release of copies of the Obama long form.

From the April 27, 2011 press release: “The Hawai’i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai’i,” Hawai’i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai’i.”
On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President’s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).
On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama’s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.”

Before Loretta Fuddy was ever state Health Director, her predecessor in that position, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, M.D. went to the files and verified that the Obama birth certificate was there and that it was accurate. In 2008 and in 2009 Dr. Fukino issued statements that that effect.

Since Loretta Fuddy is now deceased, Dr. Fukino and Dr. Onaka are still alive and available to testify before Congress or in a court of law.


40 posted on 07/19/2015 7:24:24 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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