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Posted on 07/03/2015 5:10:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The latest polling shows that most Americans still view the Confederate flag as a symbol of Southern pride as opposed to racism — an opinion that has not significantly changed in 15 years.
After the last couple of weeks of anti-Confederate hysteria, you don’t have to be a fan of the rebel battle flag to appreciate that the public is basically shrugging their shoulders.
Via CNN:
American public opinion on the Confederate flag remains about where it was 15 years ago, with most describing the flag as a symbol of Southern pride more than one of racism, according to a new CNN/ORC poll. And questions about how far to go to remove references to the Confederacy from public life prompt broad racial divides.
The poll shows that 57% of Americans see the flag more as a symbol of Southern pride than as a symbol of racism, about the same as in 2000 when 59% said they viewed it as a symbol of pride. Opinions of the flag are sharply divided by race, and among whites, views are split by education.
Among African-Americans, 72% see the Confederate flag as a symbol of racism, just 25% of whites agree. In the South, the racial divide is even broader. While 75% of Southern whites describe the flag as a symbol of pride and 18% call it a symbol of racism, those figures are almost exactly reversed among Southern African-Americans, with just 11% seeing it as a sign of pride and 75% viewing it as a symbol of racism.
Among whites, there’s a sharp divide by education, and those with more formal education are less apt to see the flag as a symbol of pride. Among whites with a college degree, 51% say it’s a symbol of pride, 41% one of racism. Among those whites who do not have a college degree, 73% say it’s a sign of Southern pride, 18% racism.
President Barack Obama used the occasion of the funeral of Rev. Clementa Pinckney last week to agitate against the Confederate flag.
“For too long we were blind to the pain that the Confederate flag had stirred in too many of our citizens,” Obama said during the eulogy.
“It’s true a flag did not cause these murders, but as people from all walks of life … we all have to acknowledge, the flag has always represented more than just ancestral pride,” Obama said.
“Removing the flag from this state’s Capitol would not be an act of political correctness, it would not be an insult to the valor of Confederate soldiers, it would simply be an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought, the cause of slavery, was wrong,” Obama said.
Since South Carolina Republican Gov. Nikki Haley had already called for removing the Confederate flag from the state Capitol grounds in the wake of the church massacre, it wasn’t necessary for the president to weigh in. Especially at a funeral. Yet he did, almost as if to give a wink and a nod to the ongoing left-wing pogrom against everything Confederate.
Full disclosure: As a Republican and a Northerner, I feel no nostalgia for the Confederate flag. I sympathize with those who see it as a symbol of racism, and think it’s entirely appropriate to take it down from the grounds of the state capitols.
Having said that, I can also sympathize with people who see the flag as a representation of the valor and tenacity of their ancestors who fought in the Civil War. I consider the left’s crusade to tear down the Confederate flag (and other Confederate symbols) all throughout the South to be another egregious example of their gross and unseemly totalitarian impulses.
You get it.
We've just totally obliterated ('legally') the definition of marriage that has been the norm for the past several millennia.
Why?
To appease 2-3% of the population which has been throwing a hissy-fit for several decades now. One of the slogans for their onslaught has been "Pride"
What is being done to support a doubly disadvantaged, formerly oppressed minority with their desire to show their PRIDE in their Southern heritage? What about this 11% of Southern blacks who are willing to go against PC and peer pressure to stand with other Southerners of all races?
Why is the Press and the Democrat Party and pandering Republicans (Including Steve Green!) denying this 11% their free speech rights?
[Ain't statistics wonderful!]
(link is to his website)
I am a white woman, not born in the South, with two post-graduate degrees. But, in my home, the Confederate flag flies high! My husband is a descendant of Confederate soldiers and my son is planning to join the Sons of Confederate Veterans. In my profile, I call myself 100% unreconstructed.
That’s from last weeks concert?
Good on them!
Amen to that!
This Highlander is with you!
I was never interested in displaying the Stars and Bars-now I’ll have to get one. Bet you can still find one at a gun show!
Excerpt from a speech delivered on Memorial Day, 1949, to a meeting of the Daughters of the Confederacy:
It us good to see the Confederate Monument with the face of the soldier boy lifted toward the sunrise, standing there as a mute reminder of the Stars and Bars, not far from the tall steel flagpole bearing aloft the Stars and Stripes, that beautiful emblem under which you and I were born and under whose protecting folds we have lived.
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On one side of the monument, the flag flying; on the other the memorial window; a little to one side of the old chapel where, after Shiloh’s bloody battle, the dead and dying lay.
“the flag has always represented more than just ancestral pride”, so says Obama.
Does ancestral pride count for nothing these days?
“The most polite friendly people I ever met were rural southerners.”
Definitely. In 2010, we moved from SoCal to eastern Tennessee. The people are kind, lovely people. It took my husband a few months before he could make himself believe they were “for real”. In California, where he grew up, people treat you that way only if they want something.
I grew up in farm country in rural western NY State where people are similar to the southerners. Coming here was like coming home.
The knee jerk reaction from our genius politicians rewrote the Richter scale however. Governner mccauliflower of carry me back to old Virginia is recalling Confederate licence plates. Oh goody two shoes hisself.
Neither James Webb nor Thomas Sowell would be surprised at the observation.
There was a female country singer on Fox and friends this week who is from Detroit.
The media is by and large so steeped in doo doo..and make believe that they cant see beyond their own wrinkled up noses..NOR do they WANT to
The real world is a far more exciting one than the plastic boxes theyve chosen to inhabit. The glitz and glamour...empty and DEAD
Living Real Life requires far more courage than theyre able to summon.
They opt for SYMBOLIC LIVING.. and thus must avoid those meaty matters that reality.....is comprised of.
to HELL with the [ MAYBE ] 2 percent !
same with the overly race conscious wieners!
Im betting that THEY were carrying!!
“Removing the flag from this state’s Capitol would not be an act of political correctness, it would not be an insult to the valor of Confederate soldiers, it would simply be an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought, the cause of slavery, was wrong,” Obama said.
Very few of the soldiers would have fought for slavery. Nothing in it for them. They fought because they were sick and tired of the Federal Government in the north kicking them around.
Maybe not but the voters don't seem to have a problem with it.
The Confederate Flag is a flag of rebellion, NOT racism. The Confederate States rebelled against the Yankee government’s lawlessness.
As odious a practice as slavery was, it was the Law of the Land.
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