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Confederate Flag Opposers, Supposedly Uneducated
Alfonzo Rachel ^ | 06/30/2015 | Alfonzo Rachel

Posted on 07/01/2015 9:02:17 PM PDT by celmak

The inner democrat really comes out when it comes to the confederate battle flag. Those who wave it say they support your right to free speech as long as it agrees with us. Because if you disagree with us then you’re just uneducated. I’d expect that from democrats. It’s sad to hear that from republicans defending a flag born by democrats waved in battle against them and the United States. And I agree that democrat voters who oppose said flag are uneducated about it because their party created it in the 1st place, but republican voters who oppose it know why we do.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: battleflag; confederate; confederateflag; nittwitt; nutjob
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To: DoodleDawg
A work stoppage isn't an uprising?

Ending slavery was an economic sanction, one which was hoped would shut things down in the South.

It didn't matter. Lincoln had no authority over the states in secession, and those were the states to which the proclamation applied. ...governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed... and that consent had been revoked.

141 posted on 07/03/2015 3:20:17 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: celmak

Can you spell?


142 posted on 07/03/2015 3:28:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Lincoln had no authority over the states in secession, and those were the states to which the proclamation applied.

Maybe, maybe not. But he certainly had authority to deal with areas in a state of insurrection. And he used that authority.

143 posted on 07/03/2015 3:34:36 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa
Grammar? Nope, I don't teach that. I can spell "Democrat", though, even if elmak can't use the 'c' on his keyboard.

It lends far greater credibility to one who would attack the form of my reply rather than the meaning if they can spell the name of the people they froth at the keyboard over.

The bottom line is that none of elmak's suppositions about me or my family has been correct. NOT even ONE! Why, that's a perfect score by yankee math, untainted by the treacly business of being correct.

More racists have marched under the US flag than any other, so you Yankees can spare me your false sanctimony.

144 posted on 07/03/2015 3:38:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
A work stoppage isn't an uprising?

Not by any definition I'm aware of.

Ending slavery was an economic sanction, one which was hoped would shut things down in the South.

True.

It didn't matter. Lincoln had no authority over the states in secession, and those were the states to which the proclamation applied.

As President of the United States - all the states, those rebelling and those not - he certainly did.

145 posted on 07/03/2015 3:43:41 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Smokin' Joe

And plenty of true Americans have put racists in the ground. The Klan was and are not true Americans.


146 posted on 07/03/2015 3:51:57 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa
Yet they march under the US Flag.

Odd, isn't it that the flag theyfly doesn't matter when it is the Stars and Stripes, but it becomes consummate evil if even one of them had carried the Southern Cross?

It's okay when so and so does it?

Reeks of being liberal.

Either all have the same Rights, or none does, some just have privileges denied to the rest.

If you can't wrap your head around the fundamentals of what a Right is, how can you uphold one? (Hint: that means you would have to agree with people having that right, even if you disagree with them.)

147 posted on 07/03/2015 4:01:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: jmacusa
The Klan was and are not true Americans.

I see they teach grammar real good in Yankee schools, too.

148 posted on 07/03/2015 4:03:05 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rockrr
Celmak is right - the CBF represents a political movement instigated and perpetuated by democrats. The dhimmicrat party has effectively washed their hands (so to speak) of association to the symbol. Those who identify with the CBF sooner or later need to realize that public sentiment isn’t exactly running in their favor.

It is highly debatable with the MSM just what 'public sentiment' is exactly. But it is interesting to note that the 'public sentiment' you are touting and those that you side with are progressive and Marxist. Not to mention largely anti white and anti-Western culture.

149 posted on 07/03/2015 4:03:59 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Interesting. I hadn’t noticed any marxists weighing in but I have seen no end of conservatives saying essentially the same thing. I guess the sentiment is cross-spectrum.


150 posted on 07/03/2015 4:19:47 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa

Thank you! :-)


151 posted on 07/03/2015 4:32:52 PM PDT by celmak (LONG LIVE THE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE SOUTH !!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Can you spell?

D e m o R A T.

There, fixed it.

152 posted on 07/03/2015 4:35:05 PM PDT by celmak (LONG LIVE THE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE SOUTH !!!)
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To: rockrr
Not sure is you seen this, something I posted before. It shows the definitive link between the demorats during the antebellum period and the demorats of today.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/08/06/the-pro-slavery-roots-of-the-modern-left/

Let me know your thoughts on it.

153 posted on 07/03/2015 4:50:57 PM PDT by celmak (LONG LIVE THE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE SOUTH !!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Just putting it in a vernacular you can understand.
154 posted on 07/03/2015 6:40:51 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Smokin' Joe

Maybe you missed what I’ve said in regards to the CBF so here it is: I oppose flying the CBF on government buildings, local, state and Federal. If someone or some group want to wave one, that’s their free speech right. And while I personally see the CBF not as a flag of ‘’racism’’ but of treason and separation, I don’t want to see it banned. Because if someones right to free speech can be denied then so can mine. Further more the CBF is a part of America’s history and to deny or ban it’s existence would be to act as if the Civil War didn’t happen.


155 posted on 07/03/2015 6:45:28 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Pelham

YOU say the Southern States seceded because they feared the Republican government would turn against them. However, in their Articles of Sucession, the people who actually seceded said it was about slavery. Do we believe you, 150 years later, or the folks who actually seceded? If you can read the Articles of Secession and believe it was about anything except slavery, then you really need to get a refund on your English as a Second Language classes.


157 posted on 07/03/2015 10:30:09 PM PDT by Team Cuda
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To: Team Cuda

It wasn’t slavery. It was a back issue.

The war was about trade and the Mississippi River.


158 posted on 07/03/2015 10:37:43 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Team Cuda

You could try reading the debates in favor of secession and then maybe you’d learn, although judging from your repeated attempts at being patronizing I have my doubts as to your intellectual ability.

Slavery was legal in the United States at the time of secession. The Fugitive Slave Acts were in effect requiring non-slave states to return runaways. Lincoln stated numerous times that he had no intention to interfere with the institution of slavery. They could have remained in the union with slavery intact.

The first wave of seceding states left over a concern for their future within the union, where half of the states were pressuring them to end slavery. The upper south states left in response to Lincoln’s decision to use force. That is the historical record. But feel free to be a fool, you seem to have that as a goal.


159 posted on 07/03/2015 11:09:26 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: wardaddy
This notion that the as GOP and Democrat are always good and bad period is simplistic and inaccurate but it's easier for the intellectual lazy

When were the Democrats ever good? In the early 1800s they were all about slavery and Civil War to protect it. In the late 1800s, they made up the KKK and lynched blacks and Republicans. In 1912 they brought in the international bankers through the Federal Reserve. In the 1930s and 1940s they brought in atheistic socialism and unions. In the sixties it was peaceniks and beatniks spitting on our troops. 1970s abortion and progressive taxation. 1990s Clintonesque treason. 2010s Obama treason and untenable public debt.

160 posted on 07/03/2015 11:11:46 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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