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Ted Cruz: States should ignore gay-marriage ruling
Politico ^ | 06/29/2015 | By ADAM B. LERNER

Posted on 06/29/2015 6:13:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ted Cruz has some unsolicited advice for the states not specifically named in last week’s Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage: Ignore it.

“Those who are not parties to the suit are not bound by it,” the Texas Republican told NPR News’ Steve Inskeep in an interview published on Monday. Since only suits against the states of Ohio, Tennessee, Michigan and Kentucky were specifically considered in the Supreme Court’s Obergefell v. Hodges decision, which was handed down last Friday, Cruz — a former Supreme Court clerk — believes that other states with gay marriage bans need not comply, absent a judicial order.

“[O]n a great many issues, others have largely acquiesced, even if they were not parties to the case,” the 2016 presidential contender added, “but there’s no legal obligation to acquiesce to anything other than a court judgement.”

While Cruz’s statement may be technically true, federal district and circuit courts are obligated to follow the Supreme Court’s precedent and overrule all other states’ same-sex marriage bans as unconstitutional.

The Texas senator then went on to suggest that Republicans who have called for following the court’s decision are members of a “Washington cartel” and are lying when they say they do not support same-sex marriage.

“[Republican Party leaders] agree with the rulings from last week, both the Obamacare ruling and the marriage ruling,” Cruz said. “[T]he biggest divide we have politically is not between Republicans and Democrats. It’s between career politicians in both parties and the American people.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; obamanation; states; tedcruz; texas
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To: Hostage; snarkybob; Slyfox; SeekAndFind

Cruz made sure it had a chance to be voted on, instead of killing it.

Thanks, gave me a chance to post my tagline yet again.


41 posted on 06/29/2015 7:01:57 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Any Senator who votes for TPA is disqualified to be President - Donald Trump)
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To: South40

I must admit I liked Huckabee saying that he would put a nativity scene on the lawn of the White house.

Personally I think Cruz is inspiring some of the other candidates to nut up a bit.


42 posted on 06/29/2015 7:05:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Hostage

And if the Court continues to uphold gay marriage, and deny the people the right of self-government, the States should just DISOBEY.

The real question is: Why are so many people “getting it” that the Supreme Court does NOT have the last word, when the issue is gay marriage, while hardly anyone has understood that the Supreme Court can and must be disobeyed when it claims to “legalize” abortion.


43 posted on 06/29/2015 7:05:10 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: snarkybob

and I think being more than just “vocal” against same sex marriage is going to help Sen Ted Cruz get the nomination..

I don’t want a roll over play dead suck up for POTUS..

I want a man...a statesman...a leader..

You can vote for Lindsey Graham if you want to ..


44 posted on 06/29/2015 7:05:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind

States can and should forego appeals to any federal court with regards to any and all socio-economic legal issues. Ignore them as the irrelevant and illegal entities that they have become.


45 posted on 06/29/2015 7:05:44 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: SeekAndFind

0bumass would find a way to punish.


46 posted on 06/29/2015 7:06:37 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
"Smart guy who got hoodwinked."

He voted against TPP.

47 posted on 06/29/2015 7:08:44 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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Cruz or Lose!
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48 posted on 06/29/2015 7:09:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“and I think being more than just “vocal” against same sex marriage is going to help Sen Ted Cruz get the nomination..
I don’t want a roll over play dead suck up for POTUS..
I want a man...a statesman...a leader..
You can vote for Lindsey Graham if you want to ..”

I can vote for anybody on the ticket that I want to.
If you think these statements are going to help Ted. Good for you. But I would caution you against confusing what will probably happen with what you want to happen.
Like it or not this is more than likely going to make it difficult for Ted to expand his base very much.


49 posted on 06/29/2015 7:10:08 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: semaj; Balding_Eagle

My mistake, no vote yet, but he said he would vote against it.


50 posted on 06/29/2015 7:11:03 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Are you saying the quotes they attribute to him are a lie? “

I am saying that I didn’t see him say that the states should ignore it. If you can show me where he said that I would appreciate it.


51 posted on 06/29/2015 7:11:18 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: snarkybob

This position will keep him from picking up a single swing state.
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You don’t know how they people in those so called “swing states” feel about SSM..

While they may elect liberals for Gov and may be pro-abortion, they may be sickened by the thought that homosexuality is now considered equal to their own legal relationship with their opposite sex spouse..

there are still a lot of semi-decent folk in those states..

Just because they think abortion is OK because though its not for them its OK if other women kill their babies..

I think you’ll find they draw the line at sanctioning the unrighteousness of sodomy..

why don’t you ask them ???


52 posted on 06/29/2015 7:13:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: snarkybob

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You must be kidding.

He is on the way to the biggest victory ever on this.

queers are less than 1% of the population.
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53 posted on 06/29/2015 7:15:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“You must be kidding.
He is on the way to the biggest victory ever on this.
queers are less than 1% of the population.”

Where’s he polling at now? About 6th?
He’s behind Trump in a couple of states.

You’re right. Biggest landslide ever. I’m sure he’ll carry California and New York lol.


54 posted on 06/29/2015 7:17:41 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Tennessee Nana; snarkybob

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snarkybob is a concern troll.

Ignore him!
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55 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TexasGator
I am saying that I didn’t see him say that the states should ignore it. If you can show me where he said that I would appreciate it.

He says so right here. “Those who are not parties to the suit are not bound by it,”

And here.

“[O]n a great many issues, others have largely acquiesced, even if they were not parties to the case,” the 2016 presidential contender added, “but there’s no legal obligation to acquiesce to anything other than a court judgement.”

I take it to mean that there is no court order directing all of the states to comply. The existing ruling is only binding on the parties actually litigating.

Of course it is obvious that the minute someone sues another state for going against this decision, it will trigger a lawsuit that will eventually have to be settled, but I think that is the whole point.

Don't roll over. Don't make it easy. Cause them trouble and defy them at every turn.

56 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:30 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: snarkybob

A man stood up..

what’s so frightening about him for you ???

A man sticks to his principles..

and that disqualifies him from being the leader of our nation ???

A man displays courage and integrity..

and youre not brave enough to believe he could go all the way ???


57 posted on 06/29/2015 7:18:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cripplecreek
Interestingly enough, the white house effectively said they would ignore today’s ruling on the EPA.

The rainbow house has been not enforcing certain immigration laws for years. It the president ignores certain laws he doesn't like, why shouldn't his subjects?

58 posted on 06/29/2015 7:19:07 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: snarkybob

I think this is going to mobilize evangelical Christians. Despite all the media propaganda, there is a majority that supports traditional marriage, across all demographics.


59 posted on 06/29/2015 7:19:24 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

TPP hasn’t been completed or voted on. Ted voted against TPA when it came back to the Senate.


60 posted on 06/29/2015 7:21:07 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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