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Greece to Default on $1.73 Billion IMF Payment
wall street journal ^ | 6/29/2015 | Gabriele Steinhauser and Nektaria Stamouli

Posted on 06/29/2015 10:37:02 AM PDT by catnipman

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Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras spoke by phone with Mr. Juncker and European Parliament President Martin Schulz and asked for help getting an extension to the bailout, a Greek government official said.

“The Greek prime minister [Tsipras]expressed the position that the democratic expression of the Greek people is hindered by the closure of banks, which doesn’t apply with the democratic tradition of Europe,” the official said.

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Mr. Tsipras and his government are calling on Greeks to vote “no” to send a signal to Europe and the IMF

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alexistsipras; crisis; eu; euro; europeanunion; greece; greececrisis; greecedefault; imf; stockmarket; syriza
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To: grania

“Any other ideas?”

I’ve got a few bottles of Everclear put away. Even if no one wants to drink it, the stuff can serve as a cooking fuel or antiseptic and someone will want to barter for it.

Your ideas are all good ones. I would add that if at all possible one should get out of debt and not take on any new debt. If that means selling the fancy house and shiny car at a loss, and living in a shack and driving a junker so be it. At least you’ll have a house and car when all debts are suddenly called in.

Keep a week or two’s worth of cash around. Before cash becomes completely worthless it will be in short supply and will be very useful.

If at all possible get off prescription drugs, especially anti-depressants.

I look at it this way - in a total financial collapse high personal debt, dependence on pharmaceuticals and lack of basic resources will quickly eliminate 1/3 of the population. It’s best not to be in that group.

Also if it turns out that I’m just a tin-foil-hat-wearing Chicken Little, every one of these ideas would still be beneficial.


41 posted on 06/29/2015 12:01:55 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: catnipman

Germans deserve a good slap down for allowing Greece to join the euro in the first place.

If you recall, all the pertinent financial data was fudged back then.


42 posted on 06/29/2015 12:02:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Seems there’s a reason for the Biblical practice of “the year of jubilee” - where all debts were repudiated etc. It happens about every 50 years anyway, so might as well institutionalize it so people can plan accordingly instead of playing “musical chairs” and not knowing who will lose when the music finally stops.


43 posted on 06/29/2015 12:03:13 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: freedumb2003; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ..

Argentina’s Economic Collapse Part 1 of 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLVMEQmhTQ

Surviving Argentina Collapse With Fernando Ferfal Aguirre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdP7iEaXeK0

FerFAL: Here’s What It Looks Like When Your Country’s Economy Collapses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na1eDvtjPtc


44 posted on 06/29/2015 12:11:48 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Sacajaweau

The United States?


45 posted on 06/29/2015 12:14:11 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: laplata
The idea of getting wiped out scared me at first, but then I figured, hey, we'll all be in it together. By "together" I mean--I've been broke before. Those of us who know how to produce won't have a a problem, at least from from one another. There might be an Undead problem though. Keep calm photo: keep calm and drink a beer drinkabeer_zpsc4a2c499.png
46 posted on 06/29/2015 12:19:06 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Maybe they’re waiting for a gyro to rescue them.


47 posted on 06/29/2015 12:23:58 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Osage Orange

I’ve got lots of them. That’s what FR is for.


48 posted on 06/29/2015 12:24:36 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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To: catnipman

Maybe they just need another layer or two of government on top of their cities, administrative divisions, national and EU governments. More government is always the solution to these sorts of things.


49 posted on 06/29/2015 12:32:33 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Peter ODonnell
Socrates himself was permanently broke.

So was Karl Marx.

50 posted on 06/29/2015 12:39:46 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: tumblindice

There ya go!

Thanks for that.


51 posted on 06/29/2015 12:43:12 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Vaquero
Broke, cold and hungry will eventually change things for the better...if they live through it.

It is in the future of America if we let the current regime have their way

add Global COOLING to the mix and life becomes cold, brutish and short


52 posted on 06/29/2015 12:48:17 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Spain is coming up.
We will feel that one.


53 posted on 06/29/2015 12:54:07 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: Hugin

And maybe they’ll olive to tell about it.


54 posted on 06/29/2015 1:02:15 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

There’s no opa!


55 posted on 06/29/2015 1:07:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (When things are rightly ordered, man is steward of God's gifts and civIns law enables him to do so.)
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To: catnipman

The more governments that default the better. Hopefully banks and nations will stop lending to them.


56 posted on 06/29/2015 1:14:51 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kartographer

How sad in that video too bad the Argentinians were not armed.


57 posted on 06/29/2015 1:16:59 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: catnipman

$1.7 Billion is a pittance. Greece should apply for US statehood. Their debt would disappear under the waves of the ocean of red that is US debt.


58 posted on 06/29/2015 1:28:04 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Just what is the difference between a "centrist democrat" and a "moderate republican?")
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To: catnipman

Puerto Rico is almost as bad.

Greece has 3.0 times as many people as Puerto Rico
Greece’s debt is 3.7 times as big as Puerto Rico’s


59 posted on 06/29/2015 1:43:12 PM PDT by kidd
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To: grania

Also know that the money may become absolutely worthless, kind of like CSA money after the first Civil War.


60 posted on 06/29/2015 4:20:03 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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