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ELECTIONS AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AREN'T GOING TO STOP THE TYRANNY BUT SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT....
6/29/2015 | Self

Posted on 06/29/2015 5:30:35 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: Jim Noble; Nextrush

Agree. That was a superb statement of reality.

The moribund Tea Party was able to amass a huge gathering in DC back in 2009. We need to do something like that again to re-ignite the movement, but this time it needs to be done without any Republican “support”. It should be a true grass roots event. A gathering of a million people would make a big statement. For starters.


21 posted on 06/29/2015 5:56:30 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Lorianne

I still have a GOP registration and support Cruz, but most times in general elections I write in other than Rep.


22 posted on 06/29/2015 5:57:09 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Lorianne

The GOP is a lost cause.

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Agree. By now that should be obvious to most. How many times do we have to get stabbed in the back before we recognize this reality? The GOP wants our money and our votes, but not our principles.


23 posted on 06/29/2015 5:58:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Nextrush
Conservatives aren't going to protest anything. Nothing. Never.

Too weak. Too apathetic.

American Christians and Conservatives (and all Americans in general) are the most passive and apathetic people I've ever even heard of.

24 posted on 06/29/2015 6:00:59 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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It is time for a convention of the states to plug the holes the lawyers derived (that are not really there) in the Constitution.

Don’t fear the Marxists will further their agenda with this.

Currently the state legislatures are overwhelmingly conservative. Also the 3/4ths ratification process will silence the Marxist minority. Laws passed by the federal congress and rouge states must adhere to the contents of the Constitution FIRST.


25 posted on 06/29/2015 6:01:38 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: struggle
I like that, pots and pans, reminds me of the Walls of Jericho. Wonder if that would work again, 7 times around the capital/supreme court then bang the pots and pans.

interesting thought.

26 posted on 06/29/2015 6:02:28 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: cincinnati65

We’ll see what happens when Ted Cruz gets a public stage during the debates.

Otherwise, I’ve noticed that a lot of conservatives are just sitting on their haunches waiting for Obama to depart (497 days!), and they need to make an action network for organization. Democrats have rent-a-crowds. We need to go there and challenge their political rallies. We also need to openly protest the government instead of just simmering on the sidelines. It’s our country, too.


27 posted on 06/29/2015 6:03:02 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Adder
Good point...I would add it didn’t mean much to us boomers either.

True. I truly admire the devotion to commitment to marriage demonstrated by the "greatest generation". I've seen it firsthand many times in my own family. That's just not there to as great an extent in subsequent generations. So which came first: the decline in commitment to marriage or Uncle Sam stepping in and taking up the slack which wasn't being provided by the marriage partners?

28 posted on 06/29/2015 6:04:31 AM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: annieokie

>>I like that, pots and pans, reminds me of the Walls of Jericho. Wonder if that would work again, 7 times around the capital/supreme court then bang the pots and pans.

We need to go there with our Bibles and quote Matthew 19 and Mark 10. You want to call us bigots for opposing gay marriage? CALL CHRIST A BIGOT THEN! He’s the one that gives us the LAW.


29 posted on 06/29/2015 6:04:42 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Nextrush
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but I think there are two reasons why civil disobedience won't work for conservative causes:

1. Conservatives are too practical. If a particular conservative is safe in his/her job and needs that job to support a family then he/she will be unwilling to risk that job by engaging in controversial behavior such as civil disobedience in support of conservative causes. One-by-one conservatives will speak up and get fired or marginalized, but we will never get together in the numbers necessary to make a difference.

2. Conservatives are not asking to be able to do things they can't currently do such as get better jobs, sit in the front of the bus, eat at lunch counters, etc. We are asking NOT to be forced to do things (that most others think are no-brainers that we should willingly do) and to be able to say things which others find hurtful. So even if we did mass in the thousands or millions, we'd be asking for things that most of the rest of the country would be wondering: Huh? What are they protesting? What are they asking for?

If someone with lots of charisma could get all orthodox religious folks (and I don't mean just Orthodox Christians) to pick a week, or better yet a month, to not go to work and not buy anything and let the chips fall where they may, then we might get somewhere.

30 posted on 06/29/2015 6:09:20 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: struggle
it would definitely have to be with Bibles and prayer. It HAS to be when they are in session. Seems that every event like this is when they are on holiday, except when the leftist march, they always disrupt.
31 posted on 06/29/2015 6:11:45 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: cincinnati65
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


32 posted on 06/29/2015 6:15:39 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Nextrush

>>I still support a sober sane third party but this is another idea I throw out there with trepidation but no shame.<<

I still believe the core of the republican party is conservative. We should seek to make the republican part...the third party.


33 posted on 06/29/2015 6:16:52 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: expat2

All of the incidents you mention did involve an amount of violence at some level. People got killed, on both sides.


34 posted on 06/29/2015 6:18:19 AM PDT by Viennacon (liberals are like vomit in many ways)
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To: Nextrush

Today, I believe the government would have no problem whatsoever with shooting all those that would show such “hostility” to them. The media would gladly side with the government against such and claim the protestors were dangerous and an out of control mob that was bent on taking the nation down. I actually believe the time for this dissent was when Roe vs Wade was passed. If there was ever a moment to march on Washington and not leave until that was reversed, it was then. Christians in America simply weren’t willing to pay the price to do so (giving up jobs and all that goes with such a commitment). We have paid the price ever since. I also agree that moral and spiritual renewal should be the goal. You can’t lose on that one. This world and its desires are passing away, remember? He that does the will of the Lord will abide forever. There’s a better world wait’in for the meek Rubin James. I don’t know, but I’m guessing most conservatives want America “saved” so we can return to our comfortable life styles and attempt to find our life in this world - not so we can lead our nation and the world in righteousness for the glory of God. I listened to Ted Cruz’s speech yesterday. I like him very much and he is my candidate of choice but he left out repentance in his talk regarding what it would take to restore America and how he would fix it. That was disappointing. I get it, he’s making a political speech to a mixed audience where not everyone shares Christian beliefs and values. But it’s still the truth and it still needs to be said and those who do not believe still need to hear it. The gospel will always be offensive to those in rebellion against their Creator but we are commanded to speak the truth in love, anyway. I wonder if most of us are just willing to let them all go to hell. The church stopped being the church. We’re not the salt and light we’re supposed to be. We have a divided heart that wants the American dream and Jesus, too. That’s a big reason we are in the mess we are in today. We’re compromised. Perhaps difficult times and persecution will ween us away from our love of this world and remind us that “He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died.” I know human history may be turning that corner that will lead to the horrible time described in prophetic scriptures. That may be part of what we are seeing - but it still doesn’t excuse “comfortable Christian America” that’s been largely unwilling to count the cost. The hymn, Am I A Soldier of the Cross? comes to mind. “Must I be carried to the sky on flowery beds of ease while others fought to win the prize and sailed through bloody seas?” It’s past time to make the hard decisions. We need to repent, man up and count the cost of discipleship whether America tanks or not. We must become more concerned with the honor and glory of God rather than our own convenience and perhaps our own physical life.


35 posted on 06/29/2015 6:24:31 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Nextrush
Non-violent civil disobedience only works against a government that is rooted in Christian thought in the first place, because the political purpose of the civil disobedience is to shame the power into following its own stated beliefs. That is why Gandhi was able to overcome the British, Mandela the Afrikaaners, and King the southerners. It didn't work in Hungary in 1956, or Czechoslovakia in 1968, or Tiananmen Square in 1989, because the Soviets in the first two instances and the Red Chinese in the third did not care what they looked like to the rest of the world, and in any case they were adhering to their sworn ideology.

Our civil disobedience will not sway the Alinskyites in power. That doesn't mean we should not engage in it, only that we should have no illusions that it will sway the powerful. It is possible that it will sway some of the population, just as Christian martyrdom swayed some of the Romans in the 200s or some of the Japanese in the 1600s. But Jesus does not call us to be successful; He calls us to be faithful, and the rest is up to Him.

36 posted on 06/29/2015 6:28:45 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Nextrush

Democrats are “faking” leftwards?


37 posted on 06/29/2015 6:32:38 AM PDT by subterfuge (Minneseeota: the laughingstock of the nation - for lots of reasons!)
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To: Viennacon

Air strike.


38 posted on 06/29/2015 6:33:52 AM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: xzins
I haven’t heard of any protests anyplace around the USA. Have you?

Who would report them?

39 posted on 06/29/2015 6:44:10 AM PDT by null and void (I wish we lived in less interesting times, but at least we have front-row seats.)
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To: Nextrush

Swamp your local Post office with sign ups for PASSPORTS!

It is Sodom and Gomorrah time.

That would at least start lots of conversations. True Americans are absolutely unhappy.


40 posted on 06/29/2015 6:46:18 AM PDT by YepYep (Build the America you want at your house and keep looking up...or maybe change houses)
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