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Scott Walker: I'd 'absolutely' nuke the filibuster to repeal Obamacare
Washington Examiner ^ | June 28, 2015 | Philip Klein

Posted on 06/28/2015 7:31:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Forget fixing it or replacing it just repeal it and let the chips fall where they may. Just get the IRS out of my doctors visit.


21 posted on 06/28/2015 8:03:44 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Texas Eagle
No, it wouldn't be a return to "square one". It would be available, not a mandate. It would become a sort of Medicaid for those who want it, but based on ability to pay.

What could be simpler?

22 posted on 06/28/2015 8:06:07 AM PDT by grania
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To: bert

We now have a clear pathway for retaking the country within the next five years. It will not be easy, but frankly it is the last chance that I see in my lifetime.

First, in 2016 we MUST elect a CONSERVATIVE President such as Cruz or maybe Walker (I am keeping an open mind) AND the Republicans MUST hold onto the Senate.

As much as I would like to replace some RINOs in the Senate next year, because of the disproportionate number of Republicans up for election, it will be an uphill battle just to retain control. To retain control, we have to have as good of a year as we did 2010, when all those Senators that will be up for re-election were first elected.

President Cruz or President Walker simply cannot accomplish any of the things that must be done if Chuck Schumer is in control of the Senate. A Conservative President and a Democrat controlled Senate gets us nowhere.

This is my personal litmus test on whether or not keeping a RINO Senator in 2016 is better than replacing him with a Democrat. In the next few weeks or months, at least one and probably more of the following 80 year old Supreme Court Justices will announce their retirement so that Obama can fill their seat: Ginsburg, Breyer and/or Kennedy. Obama will fill their seats with young far left-wing liberals who will be legislating from the bench for the next 30 years.

The Senate MUST Bork ANYONE that Obama picks to fill any of these seats. Do NOT argue that the nominees lacks experience or try to find some hidden defect buried deep in their backgrounds. Simply state (loudly and without hesitation) that the Supreme Court has shifted so far to the far left-wing that it has become a liberal oligarchy that is way outside the mainstream of America and that is disregarding the Constitution and democratic rights of the citizens. No more Obama appointments can be permitted.

The lamestream media and the Democrats will scream bloody murder. Who cares? Make it a campaign issue. Do you want Hillary to appoint far left wing judges who will disregard the will of the American people and write whatever laws that they want or do you want judges who will apply the Constitution and laws that are written? The media keeps telling us that Americans just love same sex marriage, but every single time a referendum has been held, a clear majority has voted against same sex marriage and every one of those votes has now been thrown out by a cable of five unelected dictators.

IMHO, any Republican Senators who join in filibustering Obama’s nominees should be permitted to keep their jobs for another term. Any Republican Senators who vote against a filibuster and in favor of Obama’s nominees are no better than Democrats and should be replaced.

If we can elect a CONSERVATIVE President and retain Republican control of the Senate in 2016, then the next step will be for the Senate to invoke the Reid Rule and abolish the filibuster entirely - for all appointments and legislation. Again, the lamestream media and the Democrats will scream bloody murder, but if we make it this far then they will be entirely irrelevant.

That will give the President and Congress one year to repeal every Obama executive order, every regulation adopted by every agency under Obama, and every law (including Obamacare) that was passed by the Democrats since 2006. They must work fast, so that the economy will have time to rebound before the 2018 elections.

In 2018, it will be the year for consolidating control of state governments and throwing out every RINO we can from Congress.

If we can accomplish these steps, then America will be saved. If not, then our Republic is over.


23 posted on 06/28/2015 8:26:32 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Congressional Republicans may eventually get around to submitting a bill to the POTUS repealing Obamacare as a bone to the conservative base. They know Obama will veto it and they don’t have the votes to override a veto. They’ll tell the base “we tried” and go back to dealmaking.

The only way to defeat Obamacare is to defund it. Without funding it dies. The GOP has been in a position to defund it since January 2011. The fact they choose to continue funding it shows they are not serious.


24 posted on 06/28/2015 8:39:30 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

rave on brother........ you are preaching the gospel, the truth

you light the path

your rational purity of thought is rare here

amen


25 posted on 06/28/2015 8:44:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: DoodleDawg

“It’d take 60 votes to end the cloture that would delay the repeal vote.

“The way that the Senate Republicans were messing themselves at the possibility that the Supreme Court might vote against Obamacare leads me to believe there is no real interest in getting rid of it.”

As it relates to your first sentence - it was passed on reconciliation, which per Senate rules cannot be filibustered. Repealing it on reconciliation, one would presume, would need only to meet that same threshold.

Which brings us to your second part, which is the crux of it - they’ve already floated the balloon that the parliamentarian, a non-elected legislative bureaucrat appointed by Reid in 2012, won’t go along with it. It shouldn’t matter in theory, as her role is presumably only advisory; in practice, however, McConnell has made it known that he will folow that lead, thus moving the goalposts once again.

In short, kids, don’t get your hopes up.


26 posted on 06/28/2015 8:52:43 AM PDT by HoosierDammit ("When that big rock n' roll clock strikes 12, I will be buried with my Tele on!" Bruce Springsteen)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What will this accomplish, Obama will veto it, 67 votes are needed to override a veto. It will have been nothing more than an easy political victory for Obama. He is a lame duck, lets not breathe slightly less stale air into his lungs.


27 posted on 06/28/2015 9:03:26 AM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What Walker is “saying” is that your little children need to be brainwashed into a pagan, moral relativistic worldview-—one which throws out 3000 years of ethics for the Afghani tribal harem boy ethic-—a pagan worldview of evil which Christianity CHANGED in the WEST-—flipped good and evil—made Slavery, pederasty, homosexuality, polygamy into Evil (rational)— where human beings are made into objects to be used in vile ways that strip the body of dignity and worth (God) (Means to an End —Marxism—literally..

This worldview has NO MORAL CODE-—NONE. Raising children in such an irrational, evil, nihilistic culture which glorifies mutilation of the body—drugs— a system for selling and killing babies (non-biological “parents”)-—is like being raised inside the vulgar, homoerotic, hyper-sexualized Weimar Republic in the 20s. The people were made docile and defeated-—dependent—emasculated and desperate for SANITY-— and trusted all the State propaganda. They were brainwashed by Behaviorists in the Prussian system of “group think”, which Pastor Bonhoeffer’s mother refused to let her children attend until after age 8 so it didn’t kill their Soul/Mind. She tutored or had others tutor her many children-—ALL who turned out MORAL and a few DYING—all were highly rational and didn’t fall for Hitler rhetoric (they were able to “think” (Classically Educated).

This “worldview’ literally is a promotion of Marxist Gender Theory which will lead eventually to stripping ALL individuality (identity) from the people for the “Collective” group think which will be MONOLITHIC and you will NEVER be allowed to “THINK” period. Reason and Logic is impossible for children raised in such an evil, irrational environment-—they can NEVER make SENSE of the WORLD.

And that is where the German Wundt’s and Fichte’s plans from early 1800s comes in-—along with Marxism and the sodomite’s dreams of making pederasty “normal” again like it was in Ancient Greece and Rome before the damn Christians came along with a “new” morality.

All biological connections will be destroyed, males and women will be interchangeable (no reason) and stripped of a mother/father natural instincts, so that they easily kill their own genetic offspring and put their infants on the altar of State Ba’al “schooling” to embed all emotions and ideas in all the children (the proper ones—so they are cogs in the wheel and when they are useless cogs, they will be eliminated like in ALL collectives: People who will not conform are killed.

All purpose, Design, Natural Law (Reason/Logic /Science )—those ideas which created the Age of Reason and Modern Science and the US Constitution will be erased from all the minds of the masses. All people who can see “outside their box/agenda) will be demonized and destroyed for the Truth will set you Free and you were not made to be a robot—cog.

All Truth/God has been demonized and people have literally been destroyed, exiled, and/or killed for the “truth-—like Jesus, Socrates, Cicero, Machiavelli, Victor Hugo, Dostoevsky, Solzhenitsyn, etc. etc.

Can’t come out of their “BOX’.

Your children will be made “happy slaves”, though-—people like the immoral Roman ‘orgy with the children’ times, because it WON’T end until your boys are like the Afgahni pretty little boys—happy slaves of a few

That has been the Hollywood sodomites plans from the time of inception-—only the Catholic Church went to court to prevent it in the 1930s from happening-—but they were defeated in the courts by the late 60s so your children could be pawns of the atheist sodomites who were raping all the children (Corey Feldman— who said, Hollywood consists of pedophiles) and THEY shape the minds of ALL the people who will end up LOVING “shades of grey”-—Satanism and anal cavities—even females.

Christian Worldview is erased. The Amish had the right idea-—”Ideas Matter” so they didn’t want the secular humanism absorbed by their children-—and the German’s allowed their children to be pawns of the toxic culture of the Weimar Republic and the Prussian system of mass indoctrination-—and we see what kind of culture Germany has and had-—it is still evil.


28 posted on 06/28/2015 9:15:13 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Once again, Scott Walker shows his ignorance.

Unless Scott Walker wants to run for the Senate and become Senate Majority Leader, he is talking out his rear end.


29 posted on 06/28/2015 9:37:33 AM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That isn’t what Walker was saying last October.

Gov. Scott Walker on gay marriage ban: “It’s over in Wisconsin”
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/278252541.html


30 posted on 06/28/2015 9:39:10 AM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Walker has flip flopped on:

(1) Same sex marriage
(2) Ethanol
(3) Common Core
(4) Abortion
(5) Amnesty
(6) Auto Bailouts

He still supports TPA.

Scott Walker doesn’t belong in the same sentence with Ted Cruz.


31 posted on 06/28/2015 9:40:51 AM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Walker responded: "Yes. Absolutely."

Good quote. Yes. Absolutely. Period.

32 posted on 06/28/2015 9:40:54 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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To: MN_Mike

Gosh, 3 opposition posts and again opposition posting on another Walker thread.

Walker must be over the target.

btw, I’m not going to chase my tail cleaning up your msm twisted anti-Walker sources.


33 posted on 06/28/2015 10:05:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HoosierDammit
As it relates to your first sentence - it was passed on reconciliation, which per Senate rules cannot be filibustered. Repealing it on reconciliation, one would presume, would need only to meet that same threshold.

Reconciliation is used on budgetary bills. It can't be used to repeal regulatory legislation.

34 posted on 06/28/2015 10:20:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You are right to be defensive.

I don’t blame you at all.


35 posted on 06/28/2015 11:02:18 AM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: MN_Mike

Is this how you support Cruz?

Does he really need your kind of help?

I hope not.


36 posted on 06/28/2015 11:07:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTTT


37 posted on 06/28/2015 11:16:10 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless)
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To: MN_Mike
(Walker) He still supports TPA.

He didn't vote for it.

That was someone else.

38 posted on 06/28/2015 12:30:25 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Any Senator who votes for TPA is disqualified to be President - Donald Trump)
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To: savagesusie

?????

Good grief.


39 posted on 06/28/2015 1:13:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bert
shouldn’t good conservatives make the charge of the light brigade, up the valley targeted on both sides by the guns that kill?

"I'd rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flag flying." ~ Ronald Reagan

40 posted on 06/28/2015 7:55:52 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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