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Alabama Senate Passes Bill to Effectively Nullify All Sides on Marriage
10th Amendment Center ^ | May 23, 2015 | Shane Trejo

Posted on 06/28/2015 4:59:21 AM PDT by tje

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (May 23, 2015) – This week, the Alabama state Senate passed a bill that would end the practice of licensing marriages in the state, effectively nullifying both major sides of the contentious national debate over government-sanctioned marriage.

Introduced by Sen. Greg Albritton (R-Bay Minette), Senate Bill 377 (SB377) would end state issued marriage licenses, while providing marriage contracts as an alternative. It passed through the Alabama state Senate by a 22-3 margin on May 19.

“When you invite the state into those matters of personal or religious import, it creates difficulties,” Sen. Albritton said about his bill in April. “Go back long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away. Early twentieth century, if you go back and look and try to find marriage licenses for your grandparents or great grandparents, you won’t find it. What you will find instead is where people have come in and recorded when a marriage has occurred.”

The bill would replace all references to marriages “licenses” in state law with “contracts.” The legislation would not invalidate any marriage licenses issued prior to the bill being passed.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; bayminette; gay; gregalbritton; homosexualagenda; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; obamanation; regalbritton
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To: Popman

I have no clear idea of the existence nor location of a marriage license or certificate


61 posted on 06/28/2015 6:44:47 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: stanne

—yep—this is only the start-—


62 posted on 06/28/2015 6:47:26 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Republic_Venom
We need to come up with ideas.

It's kind of a Catch-22. Those who want the government to do things for them (or have figured out how to make money thereby) tend towards group action, and have figured out how to grow the beast. The rest of us really just want to be left alone, and that's not how voting blocs & political machines work.

We do have ideas (the Constitution, for one), but it doesn't "sell" to those with a "social"-ist bent.

63 posted on 06/28/2015 6:49:57 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: tje

The best part about this is that it effectively gives a single state the ability to define a “marriage contract” any way it damn well pleases — even if it includes 75 different people who are all consenting adults.


64 posted on 06/28/2015 6:49:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: norwaypinesavage

“That statement certainly doesn’t apply to individuals who bake cakes and choose to avoid baking a cake that goes against their religious beliefs.”

Very simple solution to baking requests is that you have the betrothed couple sign an agreement, whereby the baker, with the exception of the cake color and frosting flavor/color, has sole artistic reign over the ingredients used in the making of the cake.

I promise you, they would never come back, nor send their friends to my bakery for a wedding cake again.


65 posted on 06/28/2015 6:54:15 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: ought-six

For all his faults in the ObamaCare decisions, Roberts has at least been consistent in his approach on these matters. In all of these controversial cases he weighed heavily in favor of addressing matters through a legislative process rather than a court decision.


66 posted on 06/28/2015 6:55:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: tje

Did SCOTUS say you need a permit to get married? No. Open carry for everyone.


67 posted on 06/28/2015 6:56:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: bert
I have no clear idea of the existence nor location of a marriage license or certificate

Not quite sure what you mean, but my wife and I have a actual marriage license issued from the great state of Texas...

Looks very similar to this


68 posted on 06/28/2015 6:59:41 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Republic_Venom
How do we get government out of the marriage business? We need to come up with ideas.

I have several ideas for you:

1. Push for polygamy. This is important because once it goes hand in hand with same-sex "marriage," you effectively give any group of people the power to create a "marriage" that provides all kinds of financial benefits and legal protections for a group of people that can be as simple as a small business or as complex as an organized crime family.

2. Have every person in your "marriage" take advantage of any government benefits or other financial concessions that are afforded to married couples. These would include Social Security benefits, exemptions from the estate tax, insurance coverage for an entire "family," etc. Sign everyone up for food stamps and free school lunches, while you're at it.

Give it 2-3 years and the whole system will collapse.

69 posted on 06/28/2015 7:00:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Theo

No, it isn’t. This is total capitulation.


70 posted on 06/28/2015 7:08:47 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Solson
"Taking marriage out of the hands of the government is not destroying marriage, it’s protecting it and putting it back into the proper venue - namely religion."

Agree, think about it from a limited government mindset. A "license" to get married? I would not think we should need a license to get married from any government entity state or local.

71 posted on 06/28/2015 7:11:18 AM PDT by precisionshootist (D)
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To: taildragger
"Again I say as I have been for years, we didn't need Gay Marriage we needed a Flat Tax, Steve Forbes was way ahead of his time.... "

Agree, 100% !

72 posted on 06/28/2015 7:12:27 AM PDT by precisionshootist (D)
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To: tje

What choice do they have?


73 posted on 06/28/2015 7:39:02 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tje

Not sure if I understand all of this but:

If a ‘church’ unites a man and woman in marriage, then isn’t that a God thing? That is what ‘church’ is all about right?

If a ‘courthouse’ per say unites a man and a woman in marriage isn’t that a ‘contract’ thing and it becomes a ‘state’ thing? Isn’t that what States do, contracts?


74 posted on 06/28/2015 7:43:44 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Send 'slob boy of the oval office' back to Kenya ASAP, and save America...)
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To: Popman

I remember in the wedding day fog, signing some such document but have no recollection of having seen it since. I know of several of our important documents but nothing similar to what you posted.


75 posted on 06/28/2015 7:44:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: EternalVigilance
The Republican response? Destroy marriage.

Wrong. Marriage is a tenet of religion...the state is not.

How government involvement in Holy Matrimony, is not a violation of "separation of church and state" eludes me.

76 posted on 06/28/2015 7:47:08 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Alberta's Child
even if it includes 75 different people who are all consenting adults.

Is is actually restriced just to humans...and are you sure it's limited to consenting adults?

77 posted on 06/28/2015 7:50:49 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: bert

If it wasn’t for my wife...I would be in the same boat!!!


78 posted on 06/28/2015 7:51:01 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: HarleyLady27

That is pretty much it.


79 posted on 06/28/2015 7:53:50 AM PDT by tje
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To: tje

Really Alabama? You are not going to stop Gay marriage!

Ding! they are free to move around the country and marry.
It is a civil issue, they can receive a marriage license at any municipality.

The Church is for a vow/religious vow before God. This ceremony is a commitment before God. If they, or anyone wish to be married by a religious leader, that leader must somehow understand their commitment to each other and God’ principles. It is the responsibility of the Shepard.

With this understanding if they agree on the religious commitment of marriage, then by all means. Welcome please sign and see you in the class....next Sunday. Oh and its pot luck so bring a covered dish ;)


80 posted on 06/28/2015 7:54:06 AM PDT by Texas4ever
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