Posted on 06/27/2015 12:55:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
The nations oldest abortion rights advocacy group attacked Gov. Scott Walker and his presidential aspirations on June 18, 2015 with a TV ad called "Crazy Ideas."
In it, NARAL Pro-Choice America, formerly the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League, made a claim about comments Walker made about abortion and transvaginal ultrasounds.
Walker, according to the group, "said that forcing women facing abortion to get invasive ultrasounds was 'just a cool thing.' "
Lets see if thats what he said.
Forced ultrasound law
The ad, which NARAL said would run statewide in Iowa and New Hampshire for a week, begins with a narrator saying:
"Scott Walker talks and talks about abortion. He said that forcing women facing abortion to get invasive ultrasounds was..."; then, to finish the sentence, an audio clip is inserted with Walker saying: "just a cool thing."
The reference is to a law Walker signed in July 2013. It requires an ultrasound before getting an abortion. But the woman can choose to receive the ultrasound transabdominally, which is done externally; or transvaginally, which is what NARAL refers to as invasive.
(For some women, though -- in cases of early pregnancy or morbid obesity, for example -- the transvaginal procedure may in effect be required because it is medically necessary.)
Cool thing
The audio clip used in the ad is from an interview Walker did May 22, 2015 with Dana Loesch, a conservative radio talk show host in Dallas.
About halfway into a 30-minute interview, there was this exchange about ultrasounds:
Loesch: What place do social issues have in 2016 and why do you think so many Republican candidates are scared of them -- are scared to embrace them; they're scared to get trapped by the media?
Walker: Well, I think a little bit of it is the media is a gotcha; some do at least, I don't want to say universally. But I think that --
Loesch: Oh, most of them do.
Walker: Yeah. I mean, well, I'll give you an example. I'm pro-life, I've passed pro-life legislation. We defunded Planned Parenthood, we signed a law that requires an ultrasound -- which, the thing about that -- the media tried to make that sound like that was a crazy idea. Most people I talk to, whether they're pro-life or not -- I find people all the time who'll get out their iPhone and show me a picture of their grandkids' ultrasound and how excited they are; so that's a lovely thing. I think about, my sons are 19 and 20 -- you know we still have their first ultrasound picture. It's just a cool thing out there. We just knew, if we signed that law, if we provided the information, that more people, if they saw that unborn child, would make a decision to protect and keep the life of that unborn child.
Walkers comments led to some contrasting news reports.
For example, the headline in the Washington Post was: "Scott Walker, discussing abortion, says ultrasounds are just a cool thing out there." But the headline in the Huffington Post was: "Scott Walker defends mandatory ultrasounds: theyre a cool thing."
Walker did defend mandatory ultrasounds. But what he called cool was the ultrasound technology, not forcing women to get transvaginal ultrasounds.
Our rating
NARAL Pro-Choice America says that Walker "said that forcing women facing abortion to get invasive ultrasounds was 'just a cool thing.'"
Walker did defend the law he signed requiring an ultrasound in order to get an abortion.
But the "cool" reference wasnt to forcing some women to get vaginal ultrasounds, but rather to the ultrasound technology that produces images from the womb.
For a statement that contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression, our rating is Mostly False.
Leftists don’t have a conscience. Its a job requirement.
The party of science wants us to believe that ultrasounds are rape.
It's a dumb idea but no, Walker never said it was a "cool thing." His words were twisted way out of context.
This article is itself “mostly false.”
Walker used the quoted words, but was in reference to something else entirely.
It would similar to saying, “Walker said that killing all the Jews would be ‘just a cool thing.’”
For the record, I do think it is cool to force abortionists to show their clients high quality ultrasound images of the children they are about to kill.
Abortionists are allowed to engage in high-pressure deceitful sales tactics to sell their “services”, and for too long, they have been allowed to get away with calling their coercive practices “women’s rights.”
Any measure designed to inhibit abortionists from lying to women is, IMO, cool.
WTF is this the new double speak? What ultrasound is invasive? When my wife was having all three of our children I was with her for each and it certainly wasn't invasive, and that was a very long time ago. Have modern technology somehow made them "INVASIVE".
I guess it would depend on at what point in the gestation period it occurs, but insuring/forcing an informed decision is made can't really be a bad idea.
Great post. You took the words right out of my mouth.
In addition, any time I, as a taxpayer, am FORCED to pay for something, I should have a right to set some conditions on the recipient.
Examples:
If you force taxpayers to pay for abortion, don’t squawk about having an ultrasound.
If you force taxpayers to pay for your unemployment benefits, don’t squawk about taking a drug test.
If you force taxpayers to pay for your housing, don’t squawk about having your housing inspected for drug activity or cleanliness.
etc.
We conservatives need to resist the urge to go on defense every time we are attacked.
A great response to this would be, “No, that’s not at all what I said, but now that you mention it, it WOULD be a great idea. Here’s why......”
Let’s not automatically distance ourselves from what we’re accused of just because the left makes the accusation or thinks it’s a bad thing. I think MANY of the things we are accused of are GOOD things that should be embraced.
A couple of months ago there was an article posted here about a blind woman who was given a 3D printed ultrascan. So she was able to feel the form of the baby.Now that was cool.
And pretty threatening to the Planned Parenthood crowd, I imagine.
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