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To: Brad from Tennessee
They fought with zeal and skill, but to what end? To tear apart the United States of America. Hardly an honorable goal.
3 posted on 06/24/2015 2:38:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

“They fought with zeal and skill, but to what end? To tear apart the United States of America. Hardly an honorable goal.”

Same could easily be said of the USA versus England.

I guess what you are saying is that we should return this country to the crown. (Hint: We won’t be doing that, either.)


4 posted on 06/24/2015 2:39:20 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The South fought to SAVE the republic.

Unfortunately the wrong side won and got to thus write the history books and make it into a war over slavery.

Lincoln was a dictator.


7 posted on 06/24/2015 2:43:32 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: hinckley buzzard

They were fighting for independence from a US government who sought to force their way upon them. I suspect the average Confederate soldier gave no thought to the notion they were protecting the institution of slavery but rather fighting for their southern homeland and heritage. In actuality, there were very few slaveholders, southern whites were not rich enough and actually worked the farms and businesses of the south. many were from the mountains were there was no slavery at all.


15 posted on 06/24/2015 2:51:08 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
They fought with zeal and skill, but to what end? To tear apart the United States of America. Hardly an honorable goal.

They fought to preserve the liberty inherent in the distribution of power aka states rights. They opposed the leviathan state that federalism brings. They fought against the willful disregard for the constitution and economic oppression imposed by the industrial north. There were many honorable and noble reasons to defend the self-governing doctrines against the empire builders.

21 posted on 06/24/2015 2:55:09 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Same could be said of our involvement in Iraq ... to what end? So Shia or Sunni come out as top dog?

Other ‘conflicts’ too.

The men themselves fight honorably and I believe with good intentions. The same cannot be always be said of the people who send them into battle.


32 posted on 06/24/2015 3:10:46 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hmmm. Beginning in 1775 some rebels fought with zeal and skill, but to what end? To tear apart the British Empire? Or to be independent and determine their own destiny.

Kind of what happened in 1861, hmmm?


34 posted on 06/24/2015 3:13:48 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Thanks for your great historical analytical skills. With no sources, no context, and no need for even an entire paragraph you reduced the entire war into two sentences. Could you oversimplify the Mexican American war for me; I've always been curious.

A lot of honorable Americans fought on both sides. Why anyone would let this low down, rotten excuse of a human Roof drag down that honor is beyond me.

I'm Idaho born and raised so I understand that I really don't have a dog in the whole Civil War/War of Northern Aggression fight. That said with the nonsense the media is pulling somebody better hand me a shovel because it is getting deep. How long till some ‘tea-party’ person goes nuts and the Gadsden flag etc. are censored for the good of the country?

35 posted on 06/24/2015 3:15:00 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: hinckley buzzard
They fought with zeal and skill, but to what end? To tear apart the United States of America. Hardly an honorable goal.

The tearing apart came from Whig factions including Lincoln who thought helping Texas gain freedom from Mexico as well as the American/Mexican war was a bad idea. Lincoln's ideals would still have the SW USA still under Mexico. Yet he had no qualms about starting a brother against brother war? Honest Abe's history is the likely least known and taught all you hear is "HE" freed the slaves. Honest Abe wanted them back in Africa at the end of the CW.

I'll tell you what some of the descendants of persons brought here from Africa as slaves both by slave traders both here and there {Their own people in Africa} have played the "Race" card and the "Victim" cards to the point of extreme. Not all, not even a majority, but the only ones politicans and media speak of as "The Voice". OK So were or are they the most persecuted race in mans history? NO! It was a small sand pebble in history of mankind.

What race has faced much harsher slavery, adversity, persecutions, and even several holocaust in history? What is the race the nation of Islam, many so called Reverends and their race baiting money grabbing pimps, hate them as well? I'm talking about the long standing hate of the sons of Israel the media ignores or worse blames for all the worlds woes.

The Jewish people were and still are are the most persecuted race in history yet where is their crying and saying victim this and that crap? You don't hear it. Why? Because they chose to pick themselves up and make a better life despite any prejudices which BTW have been here longer then the Civil War. They were not even repaid for the funding of the American Revolution. Do you see them rioting? They don't go and burn down innocents life work down, stealing and saying "Gimme Dat" my someone was a slave and you owe me. Worse yet the ones who are Honorable Hard Working Law Abiding Black Americans GOD Bless Them who have called for personal responsibility and accountability among black and whites alike are called Uncle Toms by the keep all blacks in poverty & beholding to their own racist leaders race baiting plantation owning poverty pimps of today.

Until "We The People" say enough is enough of this Cultural Marxist crap being used by Liberal Marxist in education, government, and media, to obviously try and touch off a CW 2 scenario and the Martial Law it will bring upon us all, it won't get better. I'm sick and tired of their "RACE CARD" being their excuse for not making honest efforts to better their own darn lives and destroying the hard work of others and nobody care in government. Anyone with some ambition and education can become what they wish but it takes personal effort to do so.

I have voted several elections for a black American for POTUS in the GOP primaries who was right on target with addressing what's wrong with this nation. The Stinking Slave Freeing GOP would not even allow him to speak at the Conventions nor address his delegates. So much for Mr Lincoln's Freedom Oligarchy Party. Alan Keyes was bashed by media and GOP alike. I would have loved to have seen Keyes as POTUS.

The south fought an honorable battle for an honorable cause to preserve the Founding Fathers intent for our nations future and the CW wasn't by any means simply all about slavery as the Marxist re-written history books post 1930's have made it out to be. Had the south won slavery would have still ended in all forms that still existed after the Civil War in north and south and the pathway for tyrants after Lincoln like FDR, LBJ, and Resident's, Abuse of Powers seen today would have been stopped & not have allowed such an unconstitutional consolidation and expansion of Executive Powers of Abuse & Tyranny we all live under today.

The Founding Fathers did not intend for us to live under Executive Powers of any elected Kings Decree. Lincoln helped start us on that course. What really takes the cake is the labeling all who sided with the CSA cause then and now as being pro-slavery racist.

46 posted on 06/24/2015 3:53:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hardly an honorable goal?

Really?

Defending one’s homeland from the invasion of northern states?

How is that not honorable?


60 posted on 06/24/2015 5:40:50 PM PDT by ladyjane
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