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THE WATCHDOGS: Chicago's new transit chief got sweet pension deal
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 06/20/2015 | Chris Fusco, Patrick Rehkamp and Robert Herguth

Posted on 06/22/2015 5:37:20 AM PDT by george76

When Dorval R. Carter Jr. returned to the CTA last month as the transit agency’s president, he had to temporarily give up a sweet pension deal that had paid him three-quarters of a million dollars in just five and a half years.

Taking advantage of a little-known early-retirement incentive offered by the CTA, Carter left his second stint with the agency in 2009 and started collecting a $137,229-a-year pension the same month he turned 52, records obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times ..

Carter didn’t retire, though. He moved to Washington, D.C., to take a post as a top lawyer in resident Barack Obama’s U.S. Department of Transportation, where he would rise to the post of acting chief of staff, making $146,450 a year.

Double-dipping as a federal government official while also collecting a pension from the CTA allowed Carter to take home a combined taxpayer-subsidized income that reached $283,679 a year, records show.

Now 57, Carter collected $754,762 in pension payouts between November 2009 and this April, when he accepted Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s offer to return to the CTA for his third stint there, this time as its $235,000-a-year boss.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Illinois; US: Michigan; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cta; highspeedrail

1 posted on 06/22/2015 5:37:20 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

NEW LAW: NO GOVERNMENT PENSIONS UNTIL AGE 65

This 20-and-out is for the birds

MILITARY EXCLUDED


2 posted on 06/22/2015 5:41:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz - to defeat HilLIARy/Warren)
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To: Mr. K

Better yet, make them live like the rest of us.

Defined contribution, not defined benefit, retirement plans.


3 posted on 06/22/2015 5:44:09 AM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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To: Mr. K
New Law: No government pensions period. Military or otherwise.

We are all private citizens. We should be responsible for our own financial well-being.

4 posted on 06/22/2015 5:50:34 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: IncPen

I agree. One of the biggest problems with the economy is the regulators aren’t forced to participate in it either during their working years or during retirement. When you absolve people from participating in the push and pull of market cycles, it warps their view of reality. Forcing all public sector employees into defined contribution plans would be a nice dose of shock therapy for how the rest of the world lives.

And if I were Mr Transit Authority, I wouldn’t get too excited. States can’t declare bankruptcy...but cities and quasi-public entities like transit authorities can...

One of the biggest rallying cry at the public sector union hall in 2016 will be “protect your retirement”.


5 posted on 06/22/2015 5:51:17 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Texas Eagle
From a pension standpoint, the military is different because it is a young man's game, and up or out is going to separate most military personal by their early 40's. I don't think the military should be exempt from discussions of pension reform, but I do suspect that the 20 year deal will prove, on examination, to be worth keeping.

As a broad proposition, however, public pensions should be transitioned to defined contribution.

6 posted on 06/22/2015 5:55:39 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx
From a pension standpoint, the military is different because it is a young man's game,

So what? It's a volunteer military. They are free to leave after their enlistment is up which is, what?, 2 or 4 years depending?

A soldier can retire at 40 and get a pension and then get a government job and get another pension when he retires. That's double-dipping. Is that what he or she fought for? So others can provide for their lavish retirements?

7 posted on 06/22/2015 6:01:04 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

Yep, as a nominally disabled veteran, and my father was a career SGM, I still say a military pension should kick in at 65.

Just because somebody served in the Armed forces shouldn’t give them a free ride for the rest of their life. A guy could go in at 18, and “retire” at 38. That’s just not right.


8 posted on 06/22/2015 6:12:08 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: george76

When I worked there in the ‘80’s and early ‘90’s, a superintendent-level or above person retiring after 25 years of service would get (as I recall it) something like 70% of their base salary (average of last 5 years of service) for life.

Many of these retirees would go on to second careers working as consultants to the CTA, making at least as much as they were while they were on the job.

The downside to working for the Authority was that your salary didn’t keep up with what the private marketplace could offer (25-40% less, I would say), and you had to put up with years with no raises at all, lots of bureaucracy, etc.

Not a perfect system, but I guess it was felt that you had to offer some incentive to attract and retain people.


9 posted on 06/22/2015 6:13:29 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: glorgau
Amen. And thank you for your service. The military is all about self-reliance. I don't know why military personnel can't invest in 401ks or IRAs or any other of the retirement plans available to the rest of us.

By the way, that goes for Socialist Security as well. I'm all for doing away with SS and encouraging people to provide for their own retirement.

10 posted on 06/22/2015 6:18:39 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

It’s interesting how “double dipping” works. As a retired teacher getting a state pension, 60% of the social security I’d otherwise be entitled to is withheld, so that I don’t benefit from double dipping. Yet the same concept is not applied to people at the top of the food chain.


11 posted on 06/22/2015 6:18:47 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Texas Eagle

Double dipping?

If you work for Mcdonald’s for twenty years, then move over to Burger King for twenty; is that double dipping?

And Social Security too!

My father was career Navy and collected into his 90’s! My mother still collects!
He did thirty years, then on to another career into his 70’s!

The main issue is that people live much longer now.
My father did very well, but many do a quick burst of 20-30 and not many job offers waiting.

West Point 1985, very nice, but what do you have that relates to this business? We could start you as a management trainee...

Know a guy,a ring knocker and helicopter pilot, took years to get some traction.


12 posted on 06/22/2015 8:02:10 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: glorgau
The 50% number you hear regarding military retirement is 50% of your base pay, not pay and allowances. This means retirement at 20 means about 1/3rd of what you made on active duty. Not livable.

Serve up-or-out, so potentially you can serve 15 years, go to war, get shot at, and then at 15yrs, get riffed and be gone, not vested in any pension, no 401 with matching funds, nothing. In the civilian world you can work and be vested in a retirement scheme at 15-yrs and move on. . .why not military?

Military moves you all the time and you write a blank check to Uncle Sam when you enter, payable up to your life. Somehow I don't think Target or Bank of America demands your life, and in fact, those places fire you if you fight some robber threatening your life.

Families are another factor. Moving means uplifting the family constantly; wife can't really get her own career going, kids going to multiple high schools, bases usually surrounded by gawd-awful and dangerous parts of town, if near a town at all.

Comparing military retirement with civilian retirement is akin to comparing apples and oranges.

Not at all alike.

13 posted on 06/23/2015 10:13:56 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Texas Eagle

See Post 13, please.


14 posted on 06/23/2015 10:15:03 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Texas Eagle

BTW. . .define “lavish retirement”


15 posted on 06/23/2015 10:15:53 AM PDT by Hulka
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