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To: Texas Eagle

Yep, as a nominally disabled veteran, and my father was a career SGM, I still say a military pension should kick in at 65.

Just because somebody served in the Armed forces shouldn’t give them a free ride for the rest of their life. A guy could go in at 18, and “retire” at 38. That’s just not right.


8 posted on 06/22/2015 6:12:08 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau
Amen. And thank you for your service. The military is all about self-reliance. I don't know why military personnel can't invest in 401ks or IRAs or any other of the retirement plans available to the rest of us.

By the way, that goes for Socialist Security as well. I'm all for doing away with SS and encouraging people to provide for their own retirement.

10 posted on 06/22/2015 6:18:39 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: glorgau
The 50% number you hear regarding military retirement is 50% of your base pay, not pay and allowances. This means retirement at 20 means about 1/3rd of what you made on active duty. Not livable.

Serve up-or-out, so potentially you can serve 15 years, go to war, get shot at, and then at 15yrs, get riffed and be gone, not vested in any pension, no 401 with matching funds, nothing. In the civilian world you can work and be vested in a retirement scheme at 15-yrs and move on. . .why not military?

Military moves you all the time and you write a blank check to Uncle Sam when you enter, payable up to your life. Somehow I don't think Target or Bank of America demands your life, and in fact, those places fire you if you fight some robber threatening your life.

Families are another factor. Moving means uplifting the family constantly; wife can't really get her own career going, kids going to multiple high schools, bases usually surrounded by gawd-awful and dangerous parts of town, if near a town at all.

Comparing military retirement with civilian retirement is akin to comparing apples and oranges.

Not at all alike.

13 posted on 06/23/2015 10:13:56 AM PDT by Hulka
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