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"We don’t have all the facts".......... Like that's ever slowed you down. As we say around my house, "moron labe".
1 posted on 06/20/2015 1:39:41 PM PDT by rktman
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And just in case, here’s something from Matt Vespz:

Friendly Reminder: None of Obama’s Gun Control Initiatives Would Have Prevented Charleston Shooting

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/06/19/friendly-reminder-none-of-obamas-gun-control-initiatives-would-have-prevented-charleston-shooting-n2014558/print

Not that it matters when you are subjugating the citizens.


2 posted on 06/20/2015 1:43:46 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha....Come and get 'em Obama....Ha, Ha, Ha, ha...
3 posted on 06/20/2015 1:44:03 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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They want to take guns from non-violent citizens while leaving them in the hands of violent criminals.


4 posted on 06/20/2015 1:45:23 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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Come and take mine Obummer, You little a$$wipe, you and your Waffen SS troops are going to have to do it the hard way.


5 posted on 06/20/2015 1:46:05 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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Treat each of Americans as Americans ... Walk away slow and ‘Prepare yE!’


6 posted on 06/20/2015 1:46:18 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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“Could??”


7 posted on 06/20/2015 1:46:49 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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I wonder how disarming honest people and putting at the mercy of criminals helps? I guess if the Secret Service disarms, I would feel better about it. But, in the mean time consider this: http://airpower.blogspot.com/2008/06/tooth-violence.html


14 posted on 06/20/2015 2:04:44 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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There won't be a gun grab.

If Obama with a Democratic Senate couldn't get new gun control legislation passed after Sandy Hook, they're not going to be able to get any passed now.

Still, always remain vigilant.

17 posted on 06/20/2015 2:09:24 PM PDT by Drew68
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Good luck to him going the legislative route, no way most Congressmen and Senators vote for this. Including more than a few Democrats.

Good luck to him going the EO route. The GOP nominee will pick up a whole bunch of purple, if not blue, states. Including Colorado.

Good luck to him actually trying to enforce an EO. Look at what happened in CT with mass non-compliance ...


18 posted on 06/20/2015 2:09:42 PM PDT by tanknetter
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Look at history... Hitler used the Reichstag fire as a pretext for ending civil liberties in Germany. Obama’s mentor Saul Alinski also advocated using crises either real or imagined as a means of seizing power. Sadly I fear that Obama could declare himself dictator with acolades from Democrats and the media and the GOP would do little more than whimper.


22 posted on 06/20/2015 2:16:36 PM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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Just let that little dictator King Obama try. It will be his last effort to further destroy America.
23 posted on 06/20/2015 2:18:33 PM PDT by Logical me
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There were sufficient laws on the books that, if followed, would have prevented Roof from having a gun. Those laws were not followed. What good will new laws do if they aren’t followed either?


24 posted on 06/20/2015 2:20:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Anything BUt Benghazi..

Whupping up a nice batch of sentiment for martial law at this point and in Obammy’s disjointed regime, anything goes.. who cares who gets screwed worst?

Sandy Hook, Charleston..

Obammy played thru..

Lets hope he keeps doing it for awhile..


26 posted on 06/20/2015 2:24:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Well, Mr. Barry Boy, they aren’t yours to take, and I ain’t about to give them to you, so f*** you.


27 posted on 06/20/2015 2:26:18 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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Come and get em.

Bring all your unarmed, half wit, worshipers too....


31 posted on 06/20/2015 2:39:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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And just when ammo prices were starting to come down.....


33 posted on 06/20/2015 2:53:00 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Obama the worlds greatest gun salesman: Watch for a big jump in arms and ammunition sales, again.


36 posted on 06/20/2015 3:19:31 PM PDT by Truth29
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To any lib-lurkers out there reading this who are in favor of "gun control" as a way to stop this kind of thing and "keep us all safe" I ask you to do one simple thing for me.

Now, this is going to hurt. It is going to hurt because it will require you to actually think independently. It will hurt because it will require you to reason and use common sense. It will hurt because it will challenge your long-held beliefs that have been spoon-fed to you by your "leaders."

But I challenge you to do it anyway. Here it is, we're going to perform a little thought experiment based on two questions.

First, ask yourself this. If someone is insane, evil, or mentally/emotionally damaged enough to commit pre-meditated murder, breaking a dozen or more existing laws, do you really think adding a couple more "gun control" laws to the books for him/her to break will make any difference?

The answer is of course not. If you cannot answer that way then you are either mentally defective yourself or intellectually dishonest - even with yourself. There is no way any sane, rational, honest person can say any existing or proposed "gun control" laws will deter someone bent on committing mass murder. You know it, we (freedom and liberty loving people) know it. When you advocate for such things it calls into question your motives, since safety and/or stopping such incidents clearly is not one of them.

The second question comes because I know, trust me I know, exactly what you're thinking right now. That is, if you're a lib-lurker and you've read this far. Many of you are so close-minded they've stopped reading in a huff a few sentences back. If you're still with me, bravo, but it doesn't get any easier on you. If you're a liberal, you like easy, sound-bite, feel-good, idealistic solutions. I actually like that about you libs. My problem with you is that you don't recognize they are just that. You actually try to impose them on us. But that's a rant for a different day.

So what you lib-lurker types are thinking right about now is some variation of "What we really need to do is just get rid of all the guns, then no-one could shoot up a room full of people." Admit it, if you're a liberal you think that would be a good idea and solution. You are a fool. Let's continue our thought experiment here with my second question for you. Do you really think it is feasible, practical, to get rid of all firearms? Bzzzt. Not going to happen and you're a fool if you even consider it as a viable solution for more than 30 seconds. Ban guns, really? Think civil-war II, armed rebellion. Consider, we can't even effectively close the border against thousands of invader and literally tons of drugs each year. Think you could keep guns out? Ha! I literally laugh at your idiotic suggestion.

So given the only reasonable answers to those questions means there will always be guns here and always be people willing to use them to harm others... The "answer" to make us safer simply cannot be disarm more people and create more defenseless victims. Gun control is one of the most un-abashedly stupid ideas anyone has ever come up with.

Unless you're a wanna-be dictator and fascist, and want a disarmed, controllable populace.

37 posted on 06/20/2015 3:30:52 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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μολὼν λαβέ


38 posted on 06/20/2015 4:24:34 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Before I would put up against the wall some moron with a gun, it would be some communist wannabe.


42 posted on 06/20/2015 5:03:04 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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