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TED CRUZ HQ: A Note to Conservatives on Trade Agreements
Ted Cruz for President ^ | June 12, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 06/13/2015 4:07:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You all say that I’ve set-up Cruz as a god, but haven’t you done the same for Sessions?

What a lame argument. I've said nothing about what you have or haven't set up Cruz to be. And I'm just repeating what Sessions and others have said about the history of fast track and the passage of trade agreements.

Can you name any that were sent to Congress under fast track and subsequently defeated?

21 posted on 06/13/2015 4:28:14 PM PDT by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Free trade helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers; indeed, one in five American jobs depends on trade, in Texas alone 3 million jobs depend on trade. When we open up foreign markets, we create American jobs.

Somehow we need money set aside for retraining displaced workers in every Free Trade agreement.

Yeah it helps farmers the get wet backs, manufacturers get their coolies and everything is hunky dory.

22 posted on 06/13/2015 4:29:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Caipirabob
Literally every legitimate shot candidate in the race has supported and even lobbied foreign nations for this. The fact that they all slink away and watch from cover doesn't impress me nearly as much as the man who stands in the open fighting it out.

I have plenty of mixed feelings about these trade deals but I also believe Ted Cruz would negotiate far more equitable trade deals with foreign nations than anyone else in the race.



I'm getting a really bizarre feeling that Freepers feel than nothing will change no matter who is elected so lets destroy Cruz. They seem more interested in someone telling them what they want to hear so they can feel good for a while and we'll worry about broken promises later. Its not sensible or rational but people in groups seldom are.

Personally I trust Cruz to put real effort into keeping his promises. The fact that the establishment absolutely hates him makes me feel like they believe he'll carry out his threats and promises too.
23 posted on 06/13/2015 4:30:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: BenLurkin
Okay. But is it Constitutional?

What authority besides the Supreme Court should we use to determine constitutionality?

24 posted on 06/13/2015 4:30:32 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: central_va

I’ve been an HR rep in a cell phone refurbishment factory and I don’t remember seeing any coolies. Lots of poor whites & blacks, questionably legal immigrants from our Southern neighbor and a few Asians.


25 posted on 06/13/2015 4:32:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read it. Wjy is there a logjam now Senator Cruz?

If fast track has been the only way to get trade agreements what happened to change that?


26 posted on 06/13/2015 4:32:12 PM PDT by amihow
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To: BenLurkin

Oh how mean of you to ask.


27 posted on 06/13/2015 4:33:00 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Moreover, Senator Cruz introduced a TPA amendment to expressly prohibit any trade deal from attempting to alter our immigration laws.

Which failed!

So, the fact is that there was enough danger in Cruz's mind to introduce the amendment.

28 posted on 06/13/2015 4:33:16 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

manufactures send the factories overseas to mate with their coolies. HR is one step below lawyers in the respect chain.


29 posted on 06/13/2015 4:33:38 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: InterceptPoint
We know what Cruz's justification is, but it doesn't stand up!

Debate the Bill in open or kill it.

30 posted on 06/13/2015 4:34:43 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Caipirabob
Yeah, I've read up on his position here. He's still being duplicitous on the matter, is now throwing good money after bad by not telling the whole story. To wit:

or (2) through legislation passed by a majority of both Houses of Congress.

Without TPA, TPP is STILL subject to cloture and the filibuster. TPA takes away the filibuster and therefore the need for a cloture vote. Cruz understands cloture very well, here's his statement on the cloture vote for funding Obamacare:

“The vote that matters is the vote tomorrow on cloture ” Cruz said. “Any senator who votes yes on cloture tomorrow is voting to give Harry Reid the power to fully fund Obamacare. I will vote no on cloture tomorrow. That vote is the fight.”

TPA *IS* the cloture vote on TPP, removing the ability to filibuster and reducing it to a simple majority vote in the Senate. Cruz completely ignores that point. Given how he's used cloture and the filibuster to great effect in the past, there's absolutely grounds to believe that omission is deliberate.

Senator Cruz would not and will not give President Obama one more inch of unrestricted power

Its really easy to see what Cruz is doing with this one. If voting for cloture on Obamacare funding was giving Harry Reid additional power, then voting for TPA is giving Obama, no, wait, ... Mitch McConnell ... additional power. So, technically, Cruz is correct. It's not giving Obama additional power, let alone "unrestricted" power.

But that statement is a also a HUGE distraction from the issue, something straight out of the Bill "meaning of is, is" playbook.

Seriously, Cruz needs to stop digging himself into a hole here. He's hemorrhaging credibility with a LOT of people whose support he's going to need in the coming months.
31 posted on 06/13/2015 4:37:16 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No

Sessions is respected simply because he’s an honest, deeply passionate patriot who has proven himself for many years.


32 posted on 06/13/2015 4:37:43 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I agree. I like Cruz but he is just selling out to the monied interests without regard for conservative voters demands that deal be made public before being approved.


33 posted on 06/13/2015 4:39:15 PM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!!)
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To: Will88

Jeff Sessions, the new “Hero” on Free Trade. How about this vote on China?

http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Jeff_Sessions_Free_Trade.htm

I thought this one was interesting. I didn’t think TPP even included China.

Vote to give permanent Normal Trade Relations [NTR] status to China. Currently, NTR status for China is debated and voted on annually.


34 posted on 06/13/2015 4:39:31 PM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
TPA stands for Trade Promotion Authority, also known as “fast track”. TPA is a process by which trade agreements are approved by Congress. Through TPA, Congress sets out up-front objectives for the Executive branch to achieve in free trade negotiations; in exchange for following those objectives, Congress agrees to hold an up-or-down vote on trade agreements without amendments. For the past 80 years, it has proven virtually impossible to negotiate free-trade agreements without the fast-track process.

This is the key thing. The GOP Congress has shown no spine to stand up to Obama. When he comes back with a horrible TPP agreement, filled with all his favorite Comintern hobbyhorses, neither McConnell nor Boehner will do anything but take what Obama has to offer good and hard. It is naive in the extreme to think an agreement would be killed at that point.

Now, show me a Congress that finds some courage to slap Obama around with contempt jailings of his flunkies, special prosecutors for his immediate underlings, and wholesale rejection of his dictatorship of the bureaucracy, then - and only then - would I consider TPA.

35 posted on 06/13/2015 4:39:37 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: cripplecreek

Your ad for “Toast (by his own mouth)” Cruz
says that he will “tell you what you want to hear”.

So did Romney. So did Obama.

Cruz FAILED and supported(supports) SECRECY
and a sellout of the Constitution and American people.
How much will his wife be rewarded in bonuses,
inquiring minds ask.


36 posted on 06/13/2015 4:39:57 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this really clear things up. it is great that he is attuned to the concerns of the voters.
i hope everyone reads this.
most of the other contestants are good people.
but they dont have the charisma or the focus of Cruz.
i dont agree with him on everything. that’s never gonna happen. but i support him fully.


37 posted on 06/13/2015 4:41:18 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: fortheDeclaration

More importantly, it was blocked by 2 Republicans. That 51 vote threshold will be a given.

I am not as interested in Cruz’s vote for TPA as I am what the GOP will do to pass TPP.


38 posted on 06/13/2015 4:41:23 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: InterceptPoint
Fingers crossed that our antsy Freepers actually take the time to read it.

Too late. The verdict has already been decided. It's settled. No need for further discussion. Cruz is troll bait. /s

39 posted on 06/13/2015 4:41:38 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A video of less than 5 minutes that says it very well.
40 posted on 06/13/2015 4:41:49 PM PDT by firebrand
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