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TED CRUZ HQ: A Note to Conservatives on Trade Agreements
Ted Cruz for President ^ | June 12, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 06/13/2015 4:07:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am so weary of reading about this so I’m putting my one last hope in being able to understand it this way...Thanks.


41 posted on 06/13/2015 4:41:51 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: cripplecreek
There's quite a bit of irony in you posting a graphic with a line like "A candidate who gives you the unsweented truth comes along once in a lifetime," in a thread based on a statement by Cruz that's full of untruths, half-truths and lies of omission.

This isn't about Cruz becoming a "moderate" or any similar argument. It's about Cruz losing his credibility by showing himself to be just another opportunistic politician, which removes a key point of differentiation between him and many of the other candidates.
42 posted on 06/13/2015 4:42:45 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: fortheDeclaration

The Trade Bill is a secret document. Had TPA Been approved we would have 60 days to read it before a Congressional vote. As it stands we are not getting to read it and I have no idea what the process is going forward.

In any case it is the norm that Trade Bills do not pass except via a TPA based system. So, with the failure of TPA, the Trade Bill is likely to fail as well.

Also note that, had it passed, it would be effective for 6 years including the First Term of the Ted Cruz Presidency.


43 posted on 06/13/2015 4:42:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Free trade helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers; indeed, one in five American jobs depends on trade, in Texas alone 3 million jobs depend on trade. When we open up foreign markets, we create American jobs.

I don't believe that for a second. Look elsewhere and it becomes "supported by trade". And it looks like they include retail jobs such as Walmart, you know, all those retails jobs "supported" by goods imported from China.

So, all the jobs related to the import, distribution and sale of goods once produced in the US are counted as jobs that depend on trade.

More Than One in Five U.S. Jobs Depend on Trade

Great, we've discovered how to bring greater prosperity to America. Send all jobs possible to cheap labor nations and then count all the new jobs needed to distribute and sell the products exported back to the US.

44 posted on 06/13/2015 4:44:05 PM PDT by Will88
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To: InterceptPoint

If Jenner can be a woman, and Dolezal can be black,
“Toast” Cruz can present himself as a CONSERVATIVE.

But he is, by his own action, NOT.


45 posted on 06/13/2015 4:44:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: InterceptPoint
Also note that, had it passed, it would be effective for 6 years including the First Term of the Ted Cruz Presidency.

Which is probably why Cruz is doing this.

He gets the power if he becomes President. If TPP hits the public domain and people hate it he can vote "no" and claim that he's against it. Even when it passes with 51 votes.

All the time thinking that people will ignore the fact that he pulled a John Kerry "I voted for the bill before I voted against it" move by voting away the ability to filibuster it by supporting TPA.
46 posted on 06/13/2015 4:46:02 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have studied it in some detail. I am baffled only at his position not the unconstitutional release of authority to a dictator communist, obama. I have that down clearly . Thanks.
47 posted on 06/13/2015 4:46:51 PM PDT by mrs ippi
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To: amihow

I suggest you call Cruz’s office at (202) 224-5922 on Monday and ask them.


48 posted on 06/13/2015 4:48:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Take a look at the “born-on” dates of some of these people. LOL


49 posted on 06/13/2015 4:49:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: cripplecreek

This misses the point. Obama is not to be trusted with anything more substantial than a putter. Giving him the opportunity to negotiate away our nation by creating an EU among third world nations (and others)is not my idea of smart. Can he be stopped? Nothing yet has demonstrated he can.
I like Cruz. I like him a lot. He is not yet the prez and as a lowly senator he does not have the clout to stop Obama. Obama is the problem, not Cruz.
These negotiations have gone on for 6 years. They can continue for another 2. Let’s get the fascists out of government before giving government more power.


50 posted on 06/13/2015 4:50:15 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: cripplecreek

Too bad Ted and Marco couldn’t just draw up a bill and put it in the hopper that lowers the corporate tax rate to 7.5% and brings billions of off shore money back into the US. No free trade agreement needed.


51 posted on 06/13/2015 4:50:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: semimojo
What authority besides the Supreme Court should we use to determine constitutionality?

How about we the people and the plain language of the constitution?

52 posted on 06/13/2015 4:51:49 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Cruz but the GOP can’t be trusted on this trade issue since they’ve lied and lied and lied about defunding obamacare, defunding the amnesty and stopping Obama big spending.


53 posted on 06/13/2015 4:53:15 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“born-on” dates do not trump Truth.

The fact is that a random computer,
a rabid monkey or human two year old,
would each make the correct choice more often
than Congress ... and that includes “Toast” Cruz.


54 posted on 06/13/2015 4:53:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Caipirabob

Cruz is correct on the technicalities, but horribly wrong on substance (I’ll admit that setting up the House Democrats to kill the bill was good domestic politics, and setting the Obama up to provide something to run against later are smart politics for Cruz). For six years, Obama has screwed up everything he touched, like a King Midas of excrement. If he desired with all his heart to negotiate an agreement that competently serves US interests, Obama is utterly incapable of delivering it. The chances that he would somehow produce an agreement worthy of approval are nil. If you believe otherwise, please explain. (I am not anti-Cruz, just anti-Obama).

Since Obama is not capable of producing an approvable bill, why on earth give him what amounts to a vote of confidence? Why risk that we’ll have another set of tricks and bribes a la ObamaCare?


55 posted on 06/13/2015 4:53:50 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: tanknetter

Cruz believes in Trade Agreements.

Trade Ageements only make it through Congress via a TPA process.

He is going to vote against the TPP (I’m betting)

If the TPA had passed we could push through a Trade a Bill to our liking in 2017.

This isn’t Rocket Science. To me Cruz has exactly the right strategy. Get what we will need later right now. Turn thumbs down on the Obama bill. Pass the Trade Bill we really want in 2017.


56 posted on 06/13/2015 4:54:45 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We owe about 18,000,000,000,000 to the rest of the world, if you net out how much is owed to us. Now I don’t care if we “have been doing it this way”, it isn’t working for us so it’s time to try something else.


57 posted on 06/13/2015 4:55:05 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: Diogenesis; cripplecreek
"Your ad for “Toast (by his own mouth)” Cruz says that he will “tell you what you want to hear”."

So did Romney. So did Obama.

I know it's difficult to focus while in the grip of righteous hysteria, but go back and read it again.

The ad says that telling us what we want to hear is what OTHERS will do. Not Cruz.

58 posted on 06/13/2015 4:56:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Thank You Rush

I’ve got mixed feelings because good and bad come out of them.

However trade deals happen all the time with no notice. All governors go on trade missions overseas and most people don’t even know their governor has gone anywhere let alone what deal they’ve made. Hell I can be proud that my state does business with Israel while so many others (individuals & nations) are engaging in the economic terrorism of boycotting Israel. All due to a “secretive” trade deal.

In another “shady deal” Canada is building us a bridge.


59 posted on 06/13/2015 4:56:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Get what we will need later right now. Turn thumbs down on the Obama bill. Pass the Trade Bill we really want in 2017.


you’re naive and waaayy too trusting.


60 posted on 06/13/2015 4:56:25 PM PDT by RginTN
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