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You Can Be Prosecuted for Clearing Your Browser History
The Nation ^ | June 2, 2015 | Juliana DeVries

Posted on 06/07/2015 9:46:26 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000

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To: TaxPayer2000

That’s what happened. Hillary Clinton heard that it’s a good idea to periodically clear her web browser and she confused that with web server.


41 posted on 06/07/2015 11:08:31 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Nachum

Not unless you talk to the authorities and give them a foot in the door (aside from the fact that their are probably contractual assumptions in Internet use that makes the legal access easier).

People always ensnare themselves in this stuff by talking to law enforcement, thinking they can “explain” themselves or that by being chatty they will elict sympathetic understanding. That never happens...


42 posted on 06/07/2015 11:09:46 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: sport
If you can be prosecuted for taking your own money out of the bank, you can be prosecuted for anything they so choose.

Since I work in the banking industry and have to keep up on all the money laundering, OFAC and other regulatory laws I can speak from experience here.

You cannot be prosecuted for simply taking money out of the bank, period. That's a red herring.

You cannot be prosecuted for routinely taking money out of the bank in amounts under the $10,000 reporting requirement that the bank has to the Fed's either. If you cooperate with the bank, understand why the reporting requirements are there, and tell the bank what the money is being used for you'll not get a visit from the Feds.

You can be prosecuted for routinely taking money out of the bank in amounts designed to be under the $10,000 reporting requirement and refusing to tell the Bank what the money is for. That's called "structuring." The bank has a legal responsibility to report the transactions once a pattern has been established and there is reasonable doubt/suspicion about the bank's customer making the withdrawls, and then lying to the FBI about why the money was withdrawn from the bank.

That is exactly what Denny Hastert was arrested and indicted for.

Prior to the withdrawls in question, Hastert had zero pattern of activity indicating something suspicious was up. It was when he started making large withdrawls, then questioned about those large withdrawls by his bank did he establish a pattern of making withdralws under the $10,000 reporting requirement.

He then refused to tell his bank what the money was being used for which raised further suspicions, forced the bank to report the transactions, after which the Feds were called in. The fact that he lied to the Fed's made it a Federal Crime.

Now, I'll tell you that I don't like these stupid reporting requirements either (most banks don't either..) but it's the law and if we refuse to follow it, the bank is then under investigation for enabling/allowing money laundering and that has very serious consequences to the bank's ability to do business.

The last bank I worked at (ABN AMRO) here in North America was caught up in a money laundering scheme, nailed to the wall by the Fed's (Elliot Spitzer in NY no less...) and as a result that bank no longer exists here in North America.

Structuring withdrawls to avoid the reporting requirement is serious shit and if a bank doesn't report it they go down too.

43 posted on 06/07/2015 11:10:42 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: discostu
You can’t get busted for destroying what you didn’t know what evidence.

But you can be. It's obviously illogical and immoral and unfair, but that doesn't mean the government is not doing it. This guy pleaded guilty and waived any right to appeal, so I guess we'll have to wait for the next test case to roll back this assault on the right to live our lives.

44 posted on 06/07/2015 11:14:22 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

An 8 pound sledge dropped from 5 feet has the same net effect of making the drive unreadable. I suspect you just like using your MAP gas torch. ;-)


45 posted on 06/07/2015 11:14:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TaxPayer2000

http://www.cybertronsoft.com/products/privacy-eraser/


46 posted on 06/07/2015 11:15:03 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: FoxInSocks

He knew his friends had committed a crime, and they’d borrowed his computer, so then he cleared his browser history. It’s pretty clear he thought there might be something incriminating there, which is why he got busted for destroying evidence.


47 posted on 06/07/2015 11:19:38 AM PDT by discostu (In fact funk's as old as dirt)
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To: TaxPayer2000

“You Can Be Prosecuted for Clearing Your Browser History” ...(if you are peripherally involved in a nightmarish terrorist bombing, and after being interview by the police run home and destroy all electronic record of your contact with the leader of the cell)
Such behavior has always been a crime.

Screw this guy.


48 posted on 06/07/2015 11:21:21 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: usconservative; OldMissileer

Wrong poster. Your post was meant for OldMissileer. I do not have a MAPP gas torch.

However, the 8 pound sledge will not do the trick. There are companies that can reassemble broken disks and/or reconstruct the data, even if it is done piecemeal.


49 posted on 06/07/2015 11:30:11 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows h to run my life better than I do?)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Wrong poster. Your post was meant for OldMissileer. I do not have a MAPP gas torch.

Thanks for the correction, and pinging the right poster.

However, the 8 pound sledge will not do the trick. There are companies that can reassemble broken disks and/or reconstruct the data, even if it is done piecemeal.

Agree there are companies that know how to put together broken disk and re-assemble information piecemeal. Now here's a question:

Who am I most worried about getting my information off an old/failed hard drive? Johnny Hacker who found my disk drive in a pile of old computer equipment at the local recycling place, or a company that's going to spend hundreds of hours piecing shattered platters back together to re-assemble my information?

I'm not worried about the company that has the facilities to do it, because it'll cost some Johnny Hacker alot more to take it there and get the information off, than the information is worth.

So my 8 pound sledgehammer dropped from 5-6 feet works just fine for my personal purposes.

Now, at the large multi-national bank I work for? We don't send the disk drives off site until they're shredded. Doesn't matter if it comes out of a PC, one of our Servers, or one of our huge enterprise class storage arrays. They all go through a shredder that makes metal confetti out of 'em.

No one can re-assemble that. :-)

50 posted on 06/07/2015 11:37:01 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TaxPayer2000
But since Sarbanes-Oxley was passed in 2002 federal prosecutors have applied the law to a wider range of activities

As they ALWAYS do with ANY law.

51 posted on 06/07/2015 11:48:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: zeestephen

Whenever I retire an old computer I pull the hard drive. A couple of times a year I burn brush on my property and toss any old hard drives that I have into the fire. I guarantee not even the NSA can pull any data off of the small lumps of melted aluminum that I rake out of the ashes the next day.


52 posted on 06/07/2015 12:07:01 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: ASA Vet
What's the penalty for not knowing a preposition is something to never end a sentence with?

You do realize that you ended your sentence with a preposition? Reminds me of an old joke.

A Texas college student went to South Padre for spring break. There were college students there from all over the country. He sat down at a bar next to another student and tried to make polite conversation.

"Howdy. I'm from Texas A & M. Where do you go to school at?" the Texan asked. "I attend Harvard, a university where students are intelligent enough to know not to end a sentence with a preposition," the other student responded.

The Aggie thought for a moment and replied, "Well pardon me. Where do you go to school at, asshole?"

53 posted on 06/07/2015 12:25:28 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Prosecutors are probably just throwing this out for leverage to get him to talk. If the case moves forward, then there should be a VERY busy prosecutor in D.C.

HAHA, like that would ever happen.


54 posted on 06/07/2015 12:30:56 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Nachum
So, theoretically if you set your browser to clear it’s history every time you close it, you may be committing a felony over and over again.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,...

Bang!

55 posted on 06/07/2015 1:00:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: TaxPayer2000

“You Can Be Prosecuted for Clearing Your Browser History”

Stinking lying headline! Only if you just lied to the police!


56 posted on 06/07/2015 1:04:21 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: TaxPayer2000
I think I'll commit a federal crime.

Click! (Browser history disappears.)

That was fun! I think I'll commit another federal crime.

Click! (Browser history disappears again.)

Wow! Committing federal crimes is neat! I could do this all day!
57 posted on 06/07/2015 1:49:17 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: TaxPayer2000

Might be harder for the pigs to prove that you intentionally crashed your hard drive, rather than intentionally (attempted to) delete browser history.


58 posted on 06/07/2015 2:38:23 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: usconservative
The Founding Fathers would be proud that their creation has arrived at this point.

Makes the 18th century Brits look like pikers...

59 posted on 06/07/2015 3:05:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: I want the USA back
Only if you just lied to the police!

The Foudning Fathers would be shaking their heads over the notion that lying to the police was some sort of bad thing...

60 posted on 06/07/2015 3:07:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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