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Vatican cardinal calls Irish gay vote ‘defeat for humanity’
FiTi via Drudge ^ | May 26, 2015 8:55 pm | James Politi in Rome

Posted on 05/26/2015 4:28:21 PM PDT by 9thLife

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To: Amendment10
I see. So we go from "Catholics being taught not to read the bible" to "The Church not emphasizing key bible passages".

Next it will be, "The Bishops refused to wipe their backsides for them".

Protestants are incapable of reason. You can quote me.

21 posted on 05/26/2015 6:10:22 PM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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To: 9thLife
Protestants are incapable of reason. You can quote me.

For private interpretation of Scripture to be the ultimate rule of faith, the Church has to be dismissed, or at least reduced to a powerless society.

It's no accident that following the Protestant Revolution, the process of religious disintegration passed through the rejection of church hierarchy, self-interpretation of Scripture and finally, Unitarianism.

This is why most Protestant religion threads here are attacks on the Church rather than a presentation of Protestant teaching. It's been more than 500 years of protest.

22 posted on 05/26/2015 6:31:06 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Amendment10
????

News flash: Catholics who aren't persuaded by "the Church teaches" aren't going to be any more persuaded by "the Bible says".

23 posted on 05/26/2015 6:41:42 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Karl Spooner
"Pope Francis has opened a debate on the family within the Church — known as a synod — which concludes later this year, and could yield instructions for priests to be more accepting of homosexuals."

Hate to say it, but Pope Francis flung the door open and made it appear that homosexuals and homosexual "marriage" might very well be welcomed in the Catholic church. Some would argue that between Francis' statement and the lingering resentment towards the Catholic church for ignoring the scandal of Priests molesting young boys (and some young girls..) that Ireland just voted for "gay marriage" as a way to "send a message" to the Catholic Church.

I personally think that's bunk and not a logical connection. One doesn't reward behavior they don't want to see their Clergy doing by voting to make that same/similar behavior legal. That just doesn't wash.

I think what's really going on here is that the younger generations (those 30 and younger mostly..) have a much different world view towards sex and marriage than say my generation (50's plus) do.

Blame the liberal schools. Blame TV. Blame the Internet, blame whoever. Part of the blame does go to the Catholic Church specifically for Pope Francis' statements, and the failure of the church to forcefully and unapologetically stand for traditional marriage, between one man and one woman in the face of the evil that is now "gay marriage."

Finally, as a former Catholic it truly frightens me to see the Catholic Church flailing around like this. If the Catholic Church falls (and it's the single biggest Christian denomination in the country) then I don't see how we as a country turn the evil tide of the radical, fascist homosexual agenda back and reclaim the moral high ground.

The Catholic Church needs to regain it's footing, fight for the moral high-ground by calling evil exactly what it is, and re-claim moral relevance. Why the Catholic Church? Because no other Christian denomination is big enough.

24 posted on 05/26/2015 6:46:43 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Frankly, I wonder how many times my dear, dead Irish grandmother voted.
I suspect it was more than once!


25 posted on 05/26/2015 6:47:46 PM PDT by Radagast the Fool (At my signal, UNLEASH PALIN!!)
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To: 9thLife

It is certainly a defeat for civilization.


26 posted on 05/26/2015 6:51:20 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 9thLife

Doesn’t matter - humanity’s not gonna be around much longer, anyway.


27 posted on 05/26/2015 6:57:03 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: miss marmelstein

When Ireland is invaded by the Muslims everything will even out as far as the queers and the head choppings.


28 posted on 05/26/2015 7:02:26 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Amendment10

Millions were spent in Ireland by the US gay lobby. An American millionaire gave 10 million and an American organization of gay promoters gave 8 million. I heard that on EWTN Radio after the lunch hour. I hope I am giving you the correct number of millions, as I recall.

What is happening here in the perversion the US culture is being exported around the world and certainly they are all after the Church of Rome. Obama is courting Pope Francis, who claims he has not watched TV in years and has always read only one Leftist newspaper.

You can imagine what a sitting duck our pope is for these moneyed sources with silver tongues and influence.


29 posted on 05/26/2015 8:08:16 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: livius

An interesting point you make there, about Parolin, and about who might stand and who might fall, being among the least expected.


30 posted on 05/26/2015 8:10:51 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: 9thLife

What the hell happened to Ireland?


31 posted on 05/26/2015 8:14:34 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: usconservative

Call me the denomination cop, but the Catholic Church is not a “denomination”. Never has been, never will be. Rather, she is Christ’s Church. In her, He prayed for unity and one mind. He did not pray for unity with heretics.

The denominations are protestants who left the Catholic Church. Protestants left the Catholic Church, protesting the Church, and now represent the many different forms of protest to the Church.


32 posted on 05/26/2015 8:30:30 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Karl Spooner

I will be as accepting of homosexuals as I have always been.


33 posted on 05/26/2015 8:33:01 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Amendment10
Depends on what you mean by "key." Having never really cared about getting it on with a dude, those passages weren't really key for me.

Maybe they helped provide more guidance for your life.

34 posted on 05/26/2015 8:36:34 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Rome2000

It’s full of Irish people.


35 posted on 05/26/2015 8:37:21 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Rome2000
What Cromwell's genocide and deportations, three centuries of the Protestant Ascendancy, penal laws, and the potato famine did not accomplish, liberalism has - the abandonment of the Catholic faith by most Irishmen.

America is also being subverted by the same forces that have destroyed Irish religion and tradition.

36 posted on 05/26/2015 8:39:24 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.; Trailerpark Badass

God save us from the Fiend.

A mighty backlash is on the horizon.

This is a war

Evil is winning

Time for Good to step up.


37 posted on 05/26/2015 8:44:29 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Radagast the Fool

Mine, too, and she left the Auld Sod when she was three years old, 100 years ago!


38 posted on 05/26/2015 8:46:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: 9thLife

There was a time when this would have provoked a war, with Catholic armies marching into a country to end the heresy. Alas, not today


39 posted on 05/27/2015 1:21:40 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Rome2000
What the hell happened to Ireland?

It chose poorly.

40 posted on 05/27/2015 2:20:48 AM PDT by windsorknot
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