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False Flags, Biker Gangs, and the PATCON Legacy
Lew Rockwell .com ^ | 5/21/2015 | William Norman Grigg

Posted on 05/21/2015 5:37:51 AM PDT by Jack Black

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To: TexasGator
But I will NEVER defend the gangs like you do.

As for "Defending the gangs" don't rewrite my posts, either.

I'm defending us all.

To those who don't ride we're all the same.

Criminal behaviour is just that: criminal behaviour. So trim your broad brush, peaches, and quit painting us all with it.

121 posted on 05/21/2015 10:26:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Just as an interesting point of reference...

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122 posted on 05/21/2015 10:27:24 AM PDT by zeugma (Are there more nearby spiders than the sun is big?)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The rocker is a form of insignia claimed by another group and wearing that might cause issues. Just like wearing a military uniform if you haven't served, or don't deserve to wear the ribbons you have on. (You can get 'schooled' for that, too).

Don't start getting totally silly, now explain to everyone about the colors of the Crips and the Bloods, and how it is just " a form of insignia claimed by another group and wearing that might cause issues. Just like wearing a military uniform if you haven't served, or don't deserve to wear the ribbons you have on. (You can get 'schooled' for that, too)."

You know that the Bandidos and Cossacks, and Hells Angels will kill until this gang symbol rocker, is won or lost and control asserted over the region or state.

123 posted on 05/21/2015 10:36:02 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I’m not talking about Crips or Bloods. Do they ride? Really. Maybe we should discuss cheerleader uniforms, it’s just as off-topic. Take that up with the one who brought it up.


124 posted on 05/21/2015 10:44:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That was incredible.

You don’t understand the rocker and criminal gangs, and gang colors at all, apparently.

I’ll bet that you understand well enough to never die by disobeying the gangs in regards to them though, although you are supposedly a free man, and have nothing to do with them.


125 posted on 05/21/2015 10:50:50 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Smokin' Joe
I think you may be conflating street gangs with motorcycle clubs. Nice try.

Yes, I am.

Not all "motorcycle clubs" are criminal gangs. The local Harley Owners Group isn't, for instance. But there are certainly criminal biker gangs, you know it and so do I.

The big criminal gangs have long histories of organizational involvement in various types of crime. They have been accused, arrested, tried and convicted of organized crime. Repeatedly. They are very similar to street gangs like the Crips. Both have illegal drug dealing as a cornerstone of their operations. Both claim territory. Both claim the rights to make rules for others, weird rules like "don't wear red" or "talk to us before you start a motorcycle club in this state".

Here's some background on some criminal clubs, from Wikipedia:

Clubs active in Washington State:

Free Souls:

From The Free Souls Motorcycle Club is an outlaw motorcycle club that was formed in Eugene, Oregon in 1969. The club has chapters throughout Oregon and Washington, Europe, and Australia.[1] The club's insignia is an ankh imposed over a spoked motorcycle wheel which is itself imposed over a set of motorcycle handlebars. The club colors are blue and white, which is also a metonym used to refer to the club.

Criminal activities

Three Free Souls members were arrested on a number of charges on May 2, 2007, after the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and local police raided six homes in Eugene. Ten stolen motorcycles, guns, methamphetamine, marijuana and hashish oil were seized.

Gypsy Jokers

The Gypsy Joker Motorcycle Club (GJMC), or the Gypsy Jokers as they are called in Australia, are a "one-percenter" motorcycle gang and organized crime syndicate that was originally formed in San Francisco, California on April Fool's Day, 1956. They are one of the most notorious and violent motorcycle gangs in both the US and in Australia.[6][7][8]

A few highlights of their criminal side:

A Gypsy Joker member was charged with attempted murder on March 17, 2009. He shot and wounded a member of the Newboys gang and former Hells Angel outside their clubhouse in Adelaide, South Australia.[14]

On May 19, 2009, five Gypsy Jokers were involved in a drug-related shoot-out with another gang in Perth, Western Australia. Two were wounded and taken to hospital, one of which was Club President Leonard Mark Kirby.[15]

On April 14, 2012, Gypsy Joker Anthony "Rooster" Perish, his brother Andrew (a Rebels Motorcycle Club gang member) and Matthew Lawton were sentenced to eighteen, nine and fifteen years respectively for the murder of convicted drug trafficker Terry Falconer, conspiracy to commit murder and firearms and drug offences[16]

The Bandidos, one of the two main clubs involved in the Texas shooting are one of the biggest clubs in Washington State. I'm not sure if they claim to control the whole state, as they do Texas, but they are certainly here.

Bandidos

The Bandidos Motorcycle Club, also known as the Bandido Nation, is a "one-percenter" motorcycle club[1][2][3] and organized crime syndicate with a worldwide membership. The club was formed in 1966 by Don Chambers in Texas. Its motto is "We are the people our parents warned us about." It is estimated to have 2,400 members in 210 chapters, located in 22 countries. The club considers itself to be an outlaw motorcycle club. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada have named the Bandidos an "outlaw motorcycle gang".[

In November 2006, Glenn Merritt of the Bellingham, Washington chapter was sentenced to four years in prison for drug possession and trafficking in stolen property. A total of 32 members were indicted in the associated investigation, on charges including conspiracy, witness tampering, and various drug and gun violations. Eighteen of those pled guilty.[18] In October, 2006, George Wegers, then Bandidos' international president, pled guilty and received a two-year sentence for conspiracy to engage in racketeering.

I grew up in Detroit. These guys were notorious criminals in Detroit for decades.

The Highwaymen

The Highwaymen Motorcycle Club is a one-percenter outlaw motorcycle gang that was formed in Detroit, Michigan in 1954.[1][2] The club has undergone a number of large-scale police and FBI investigations, most notably in 1973, 1987 and 2007.[2] In the early 1970s several members were convicted of bombings and raids of the homes and the clubhouses of rival motorcycle clubs.[3]

On May 5, 2007, the Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested 40 members and associates of the Detroit chapter of the Highwaymen on a number of charges including racketeering, murder for hire, assault, police corruption, cocaine trafficking, vehicle theft, and mortgage and insurance fraud. Twenty-nine illegal firearms, including assault rifles, shotguns and handguns, were also found when FBI agents raided homes and the chapter's clubhouse. The investigation into the club lasted two years and involved wiretaps and two informants, one of whom was eventually murdered.[2]

High-ranking Highwaymen member Randell Lee McDaniel was arrested for running a chop shop in Lansing, Michigan on June 13, 2007. The investigation by the Monroe County Auto Theft Enforcement began in October 2006 and served several search warrants on properties owned by McDaniel. He was charged with conducting a criminal enterprise, operating a chop shop, motor vehicle theft and possessing a controlled substance.[11]

Four police officers and a member of the Highwaymen were indicted on March 12, 2008 by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges stemming from the 2007 investigation into drug trafficking. Highwaymen member Sean Donovan, who was already incarcerated on stolen property charges, was charged with possession with intent to distribute marijuana and Vicodin. The four police officers were also jailed for corruption.[12][13]

Their rivals were The Outlaws, an equally vicious criminal gang:

The Outlaws

The Outlaws Motorcycle Club, incorporated as the American Outlaws Association or its acronym, A.O.A., is a one-percenter motorcycle club[2][3] that was formed in McCook, Illinois in 1935. Membership in the Outlaws is limited to men who own American-made motorcycles of a particular size,[4] although in Europe motorcycles from any country are allowed so long as they are in the chopper style. Their main rivals are the Hells Angels, giving rise to a phrase used by Outlaws members, "ADIOS" (the Spanish word for "goodbye", but in this case doubling as an acronym for "Angels Die In Outlaw States").

Here's the crime section of the article for Virginia, but they have done stuff everywhere they operate:

On June 15, 2010, a grand jury in Virginia indicted 27 Outlaws members on various charges under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) related to participating in a criminal enterprise that engaged in assaults, kidnapping, drug dealing, illegal gambling, and attempted murder.[26]

126 posted on 05/21/2015 10:57:42 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: ansel12
Either I don't understand them at all or I understand well enough to not piss people off. Make up your mind.

I don't go out of my way to crap on the steps of houses of worship, either. I don't make enemies for sport.

As for free, yes, more than most.

127 posted on 05/21/2015 10:59:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Jack Black

There are criminals everywhere. Just some are more honest about it than others.


128 posted on 05/21/2015 11:01:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

So you know very well that death is involved in these rocker and gang symbols.

Why are you saying such nonsense then, comparing this rocker war between the Hells Angels affiliated Cossacks, and the Bandidos, to cheer leading uniforms and “houses of worship”.

Like I said, don’t get so silly.


129 posted on 05/21/2015 11:08:53 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Smokin' Joe

Well, you were the one that referred to the gangs as ‘clubs’.

WTF!


130 posted on 05/21/2015 11:17:54 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

“I’m defending us all.

To those who don’t ride we’re all the same.”

‘us all’? You and the gang bangers?

Lumping yourself in with them and not condemning their actions .....

I say it puts you as defending them!


131 posted on 05/21/2015 11:25:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: WildHighlander57; Old Sarge; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; freeangel; Godzilla; ..
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Check out FR article.

Thanks, WildHighlander57.

Acronym PATCOM = "Patriot Conspiracy".

- - -

"PATCON is an acronym for "Patriot Conspiracy", a Clinton-Reno-Holder, FBI and ATF undercover operation. PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite the milita and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.

"Ruby Ridge was a PATCON operation. Waco was a PATCON operation. And so, too, I believe was the Oklahoma City Bombing."

Definition from:

https://archive.org/details/OklahomaCityBombingSecrets-PatconAndTheStrategyOfTensions

132 posted on 05/21/2015 11:28:47 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Smokin' Joe

You claimed the CoC was not run by the 1%’ers.

However you made no response when I informed you that the texas CoC chairman and several officers were Bandidos ...


133 posted on 05/21/2015 11:36:18 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Jack Black

mark


134 posted on 05/21/2015 11:38:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: Smokin' Joe

Touché


135 posted on 05/21/2015 11:43:10 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: TexasGator

Ohhhh...now I see.


136 posted on 05/21/2015 11:48:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: ansel12

“I’ll bet that you understand well enough to never die by disobeying the gangs in regards to them though, although you are supposedly a free man, and have nothing to do with them.”

He has already stated that what he wears and where he rides are dictated by the 1%’ers ...

But he says he only coordinates with them ‘to avoid trouble’.


137 posted on 05/21/2015 11:53:10 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: woollyone

BTTT


138 posted on 05/21/2015 11:53:28 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: LucyT

Twenty years later, the truth hits the Internet. They can’t hide it forever - but they can bury it long enough to where “what difference does it make” kicks in...


139 posted on 05/21/2015 11:56:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: zeugma

Good post


140 posted on 05/21/2015 12:02:10 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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