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State seizes kids from family living 'off grid'
WND ^ | May 10, 2015 | Leo Hohmann

Posted on 05/10/2015 11:24:28 PM PDT by Ray76

A homeschooling couple was arrested and had all 10 of their children taken by the state Thursday after a local sheriff acted on a tip about alleged poor living conditions at their 26-acre homestead where they live “off the grid.”

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To: Ray76

Oh, but I’m sure the 26 yr old single female CPS agent knows infinitely more how children should be raised than this homeschooling family....


101 posted on 05/11/2015 12:57:37 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Ray76
....”You don’t take peoples’ rights away unless and until convicted of a crime”....

When you ‘interfere’ in an official investigation, as she did in this case, then you've crossed the line of abiding by the laws of the land. Your rights do not give you the right to break the law. She did that by resisting and interfering in a police investigation of her husband.

102 posted on 05/11/2015 1:03:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: MrB

Sure, and the 23-year-old single female teacher knows all about teaching your 17-year-old son.


103 posted on 05/11/2015 1:04:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Ray76

As you’ve been told before, you don’t arrest the father until the investigation is completed.....she was interfering in that investigation. You simply cannot do that without the consequence of being arrested yourself..she did and therefore she was arrested.

Stage set and go...

Father then tells friend...”Make that go viral”.


104 posted on 05/11/2015 1:06:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tax-chick

I kiss my kids’ teacher every day!


105 posted on 05/11/2015 1:08:00 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

LOL!


106 posted on 05/11/2015 1:09:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: caww

> Sheriff Todd Pate showed up at the homestead Wednesday evening with at least one other deputy. When Naugler’s wife, Nicole, saw the police cars she got in her vehicle and drove off with her two oldest sons. The other eight children were off site with their dad. Nicole, who is five months pregnant, was stopped not far from the homestead and reported being slammed belly-first against the police cruiser. She suffered bruises to both arms, according to her account and photos placed on the family’s Facebook page.

Yup. There’s your interference right there. Probably should have shot her while she drove away. That’ll teach those citizens - do as you’re told or pay the price.


107 posted on 05/11/2015 1:23:50 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Tax-chick; Pelham

Harvest Gold.


108 posted on 05/11/2015 5:19:28 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: erlayman

Good grief.

At 10, I was often miles from home, riding the endless ridges and logging roads.

It was nothing for me to walk or bike the back roads.

Ironically, ‘safe in the bosom of my family’ is where the pedo uncle did his dirty work.

That’s probably why I’d go lose myself in the wilds.

No one else was there.


109 posted on 05/11/2015 5:22:40 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Chickensoup

“You may not like this individual result, but unschoolers see it differently.”

Unschoolers are wrong. They are like folks who deny their kids medical treatment.


110 posted on 05/11/2015 6:16:07 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Salamander

Not as bad as green, in my opinion. My mother’s appliances in the 70s were Harvest Gold!


111 posted on 05/11/2015 6:17:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Mr Rogers

Search unschooling to find out a little more about it.

I am a homeschooler but not an unschooler, but have certainly seen it applied successfully.


112 posted on 05/11/2015 6:24:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup; Mr Rogers; Mrs. Don-o

Unschooling is negatively stereotyped. There are a few who are so doctrinaire that they don’t teach their children to read, but rather, read to them and wait for them to intuit the reading process. If that sounds like the way public schools teach reading these days - repeat memory words - it pretty much is.

In general, “unschooling” does not mean the children aren’t being taught. It simply means that a “school” environment is avoided, and that the education is guided by the family’s, including the children’s, interests, rather than by a school system’s expectations.

I’m something of an “unschooler,” in that we emphasize improvements in reading and math year by year, while supplying material for other interests as each student shows an interest or aptitude. This has included Greek and Latin, lots of art and music, debate, environmental sciences (for a state competition), and computer programming. My graduates so far are a very dangerous Gunner’s Mate in the Coast Guard, a business major at our local state university (just completed his junior year, with a 3.8 cumulative GPA), and a National Merit Scholarship finalist.

In the case of the specific family at issue here, Mrs. Don-o mentioned upthread that other news reports state that the children can all read and do math, that they have books and computer, and so on.


113 posted on 05/11/2015 6:32:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks TC


114 posted on 05/11/2015 6:38:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

It’s natural that people not “in the biz,” so to speak, would confuse “unschooling” with “no education,” especially when some people use the label of “homeschooling” as a cover for ignoring their children completely.

I was on the “Unschooling” email list for a year or so. There are some people with an anti-authoritarian mindset that admits of no exceptions. However, that doesn’t mean that their children aren’t being provided with a vast array of educational opportunities.


115 posted on 05/11/2015 6:47:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: MrB

:o)


116 posted on 05/11/2015 6:59:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mater et Magistra.)
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To: Tax-chick

My mom had the brown ensemble.

The edges and corners were dusted with a darker brown paint to provide an already mangy ambiance.

Bleah.


117 posted on 05/11/2015 7:53:17 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Tax-chick

“Sure, and the 23-year-old single female teacher knows all about teaching your 17-year-old son.”

Well... that, and other extracurricular activities.


118 posted on 05/11/2015 9:04:22 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Salamander

We had one rental house where the brown cabinets were speckled with flecks of gray paint, so that no matter how much I scrubbed, it still looked filthy.


119 posted on 05/12/2015 3:18:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: caww
We have allowed CHFS to inspect our property and interview our children multiple times. After every visit they have confirmed, and confirmed again today that our children are happy, healthy and well cared for and that our property is sufficient for their needs. Despite that, the judge decided as a result of the deliberations in today's hearing that our children will remain in CHFS care while they continue their investigation." (emphasis added)

https://www.facebook.com/MyBlessedLittleHomestead/posts/1006959739315903

The children have been seized without there being a conviction of a crime or any harm being done to the children.

Taking children is kidnapping.

120 posted on 05/12/2015 9:27:10 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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