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State seizes kids from family living 'off grid'
WND ^ | May 10, 2015 | Leo Hohmann

Posted on 05/10/2015 11:24:28 PM PDT by Ray76

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You really need to wait until the evidence of this entire ordeal is made known....because though you say “Forget the specifics”....specifics are what is needed for the story to be completed and understood.

Currently the situation remains “fluid”.
There are the issues of a criminal investigation.
There are the issues of CPS involvement for some time.

These are ‘separate’ issues but ‘overlap’.


141 posted on 05/13/2015 3:55:13 AM PDT by caww
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Principle is what matters.


142 posted on 05/13/2015 11:28:02 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: caww

Principle is what matters. Without it there is lawlessness, capriciousness, and tyranny. Before violating someone’s rights convict them of a crime. Before depriving children of their right to their parents show that there is some immediate danger of grave harm from which they must be protected.

As to your remarks about interfering with an investigation, that’s nonsense. We’re talking about minor children, not some other adult. If one adult obstructs some other adult from their agreeing to speak with police that would be interfering with an investigation.


143 posted on 05/13/2015 11:55:31 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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There actually IS a well established federal law called the ASFA = Adoptions and Safe Families Act which basically gives social services the right to take away Mr. Naugler’s future children immediately and without any other cause because he has had custody of a child terminated in the past. I have no idea if this is what state agents are operating under but if so the kids could be put up for adoption before anyone is charged with a crime, nevermind convicted.


144 posted on 05/13/2015 2:41:32 PM PDT by erlayman
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So just how do you convict someone of a crime in the meat of the investigation such as this?

I just think you’re reaching way to far in attempting to state there needs to be a conviction, and oblivious for whatever reason to the fact she was interfering in an investigation. She WAS arrested....You want to dismiss that fact...as also that of other significant factors to this case.

So we will leave it now that we simply disagree .

Thank you for the conversation.

CW


145 posted on 05/13/2015 8:01:30 PM PDT by caww
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UPDATE:

The off-the-grid family in the midst of a custody battle has been reunited with some of their children, for now.

The Naugler’s custody battle is still not over, but the children who are minors have been allowed to stay with their parents, according to their attorney Rick Hardin.

Hardin told WAVE 3 News Monday the case was still pending. He made it clear the cabinet still had custody of the children, even though they were in the Naugler’s possession.

Joe and Nicole Naugler are scheduled to appear back in court on July, 27.

http://www.wave3.com/story/29486975/custody-case-not-over-for-off-the-grid-family


146 posted on 07/25/2015 1:31:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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‘Free range’ parents Joseph and Nicole Naugler win back their 10 children

http://www.topix.com/county/breckinridge-ky/2015/07/150720BR096H


147 posted on 07/31/2015 8:28:18 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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