Posted on 05/04/2015 10:05:08 AM PDT by Perseverando
Women who pass SEAL training will likely be able to participate in the same military missions as their male counterparts, beginning in 2016.
The U.S. Naval Special Warfare Command put out a report saying the physical standards currently demanded of SEAL trainees should not be lowered, but that women who meet these standards ought to be given the chance to head into combat, Fox News reported.
The study will likely press Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to advance the cause for women in combat, with the effective date of January 2016, Fox said.
Carter has opened up 20,000 new positions to women since February, CNN reported. And at a Georgetown University event last week, he said he was “pretty optimistic” the military would open up all positions, including combat, to women by early 2016, CNN reported.
But he also courted controversy with separate comments at that same event.
When asked how the opening of combat positions to women would impact his push to end sexual assaults among troops, Carter said: “Obviously, as we get women into more unaccustomed positions, maybe dangerous isolated positions, maybe positions where they are fewer, in relation to the number of men, it opens up opportunities for predators. I can’t help but believe for many people they’ll learn better how to conduct themselves, how to interact across gender lines and so forth. And that will contribute to prevention and eventually eradication of sexual assaults.”
Republican Arizona Rep. Martha McSally said Carter’s statements actually counter any efforts to open combat roles to women, CNN reported.
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And, since he never “gets it right”, then the answer must be ...
A different standard for females is completely sensible if there are career fields requiring the higher standard from which they are excluded.
My answer may be found in my post #20 on this thread.
NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh?
Basic training and annual PT tests should have a female standard because they can’t pass the actual standards?
How does that improve the military?
I don’t think your average SEAL goes to combat 1 year out of BUDS. Not only is there other training they must go through, but once you join a team they are rather selective about who goes out as they are concerned about mission success and dragging bodies home.
1. Navy PT testing is now weekly.
2. Internal scuttlebutt says Navy boot camp is being extended by five weeks to add combat readiness training, from the current eight weeks to twelve weeks.
3. Chiefs are telling students to not expect to ever again see, in this lifetime or career, Condition IV steaming. Currently, with few exceptions, ships go directly from Cond V (tied up pier-side), to Cond III (war-time steaming).
There's more from inside I won't divulge here, but my take is that someone (probably not the very top) expects some major surface-to-surface, surface-to-air, surface-to-shore, landing and boarding, etc., engagements in the next few years.
My personal take, for the past few years, is that every man, woman, and child in the USA needs to be prepared to fight for their own survival; that this next world war will be waged here at home. Perhaps the same all over the world, but here at home is what the people of the USA need to be concerned about.
Another personal take: American women will be critical to the combat leadership in such a war on home soil. Too many American men have grown too fat, lazy, stupid, and addicted to watching jock queers play with balls every weekend to be of any use in real life.
Against Obama's immigrants
Ok.
So you are assuming the SEALs are going to lower the standards.
Just wanted to make sure that is what you “think” is going to happen.
Of course, no one, in any of these stories has said anything except the opposite.
But you are all seeing. Can you tell me the mega millions number tomorrow night? If you are going to use your forecasting prowess, why not make some cash?
Wow, is the hostility necessary?
What “stories” are you talking about, and what I said to you is is factual “Everywhere that women have gone in the military, the standards have been lowered for them, and then the school degrades for everyone.
Females cannot be with males in the real male world, without them having a corrosive effect.
Currently, when the military has standards that women can’t pass, the military is being required to justify that standard.”
Strange post, but I doubt that Navy personnel are having to be graded on a formal PT test every week.
I also doubt that Navy basic is going to increase to 12 weeks.
The males and females are graded by separate standards, for the same job and position.
They’ve had different standards for decades.
But up until the last few years, it’s been a self-evident truth that the concept of putting women in the “combat arms” was too ludicrous to even consider.
In that era, different standards for women made sense.
Are you one of those people who thinks that muscles and male energy is only needed in a few combat jobs?
Support people need to be men also, they lift things, move things, change heavy tires on trucks, do construction, they lift mess hall size pots in the kitchen, they are expected to fight like men when the time comes.
Do you think that all the hard work and heavy lifting in the military, is done by the combat arms?
Get off your high horse.
When women did jobs that did not require a great deal of strength, different standards made sense.
When they were limited to 2% of the military and worked only in jobs such as nurse, finance, and legal, but that was more than 40 years ago.
What high horse do you think it is today as we see inferior military people who don’t belong there at all, every time a man is replaced with a female, the military becomes weaker.
I can’t really understand your posts, I don’t what you are trying to get at or say.
Post 47 was rambling and who does PT only once a week? PT is supposed to be daily.
I can’t really understand your posts, I don’t what you are trying to get at or say. Post 47 was rambling and ...
It isn't rambling. It would register clearly with people who were in the thinking parts of the military.
No hostility.
You are making assumptions. I just thought if you could see the future that clearly, you could tell me lottery numbers.
Clearly the Marine infantry officers course dropped all of their standards. And yet, no female has been able to make it through.
I do not see the Seals dropping their standards, and the story agrees with my assessment.
(I don’t win many arguments with you. Can you let me Gronk the ball and dance around a little bit? Ha Ha)
Coming soon to our servicemembers, the rucksack for today's modern military:
I'll bet it doesn't work worth squat on a long range patrol.
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