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Female SEALs get open door to combat - Full integration likely starts in 2016 Read more at
WND ^ | May 04, 2015 | Cheryl Chumley

Posted on 05/04/2015 10:05:08 AM PDT by Perseverando

Women who pass SEAL training will likely be able to participate in the same military missions as their male counterparts, beginning in 2016.

The U.S. Naval Special Warfare Command put out a report saying the physical standards currently demanded of SEAL trainees should not be lowered, but that women who meet these standards ought to be given the chance to head into combat, Fox News reported.

The study will likely press Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to advance the cause for women in combat, with the effective date of January 2016, Fox said.

Carter has opened up 20,000 new positions to women since February, CNN reported. And at a Georgetown University event last week, he said he was “pretty optimistic” the military would open up all positions, including combat, to women by early 2016, CNN reported.

But he also courted controversy with separate comments at that same event.

When asked how the opening of combat positions to women would impact his push to end sexual assaults among troops, Carter said: “Obviously, as we get women into more unaccustomed positions, maybe dangerous isolated positions, maybe positions where they are fewer, in relation to the number of men, it opens up opportunities for predators. I can’t help but believe for many people they’ll learn better how to conduct themselves, how to interact across gender lines and so forth. And that will contribute to prevention and eventually eradication of sexual assaults.”

Republican Arizona Rep. Martha McSally said Carter’s statements actually counter any efforts to open combat roles to women, CNN reported.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ashtoncarter; pentagon; seals; secretaryofdefense; socom; usnavy; womenincombat
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1 posted on 05/04/2015 10:05:08 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


2 posted on 05/04/2015 10:08:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Perseverando
I have no problem with a woman wanting to fight a blood, to the death or live, battle

MY problem is it should not be an element of percentage or quota, but because a psychological profile demands it

3 posted on 05/04/2015 10:08:33 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

If this happens, register all women for the draft.


4 posted on 05/04/2015 10:10:40 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Perseverando

Our enemies will appreciate the lowering of standards and gender affirmative action.


5 posted on 05/04/2015 10:12:39 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Perseverando
"The U.S. Naval Special Warfare Command put out a report saying the physical standards currently demanded of SEAL trainees should not be lowered"

Ha. That will last about three months until they lower the standards so some women can actually become SEALS. Then they won't be SEALs anymore.

6 posted on 05/04/2015 10:14:05 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: 2banana

7 posted on 05/04/2015 10:14:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: knarf

I cant ever imagine more than a handful getting through SEAL training
and lets take the real world considerations. trying to act macho in front of a woman causing danger to the group, trying to save the lady not matter what the costs.. and so on...they are still human
the military is no place for a social experiment


8 posted on 05/04/2015 10:14:44 AM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: 2banana; Travis McGee

Heads up, Matt!

Look at what they’re trying to do to the SEALS.


9 posted on 05/04/2015 10:17:30 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: dp0622

standards will be lowered for them


10 posted on 05/04/2015 10:18:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: dp0622
the military is no place for a social experiment

It is if you're trying to destroy the military, and the country which it is supposed to protect.

So, which is it:

1) Is the 0bama administration catastrophically incompetent?

2) Is the 0bama administration willfully destructive?

3) Something else?

11 posted on 05/04/2015 10:19:07 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Perseverando
Perhaps I'm missing something, but wouldn't a woman who could pass a rigorous Seal training course be able to defend herself from sexual assault?

And if she can't what good is the training?

12 posted on 05/04/2015 10:21:04 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: GeronL

well that’s just @##ing great.
standards will be upped again in 20 months when Cruz or Walker win. I want Cruz but will take Walker.


13 posted on 05/04/2015 10:25:02 AM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“If this happens, register all women for the draft.”

That’s nice, punish the people who raised normal female daughters. Sick,,,


14 posted on 05/04/2015 10:25:49 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: NorthMountain

how about all of the above. twenty years ago he spelled out his hatred for whites and anger at dad for leaving. When you are full of that much hate you just want to destroy and that is what he is doing.


15 posted on 05/04/2015 10:26:07 AM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: dp0622

“trying to save the lady not matter what the costs.. “

There wont be a lady there.


16 posted on 05/04/2015 10:26:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Perseverando
The Israelis have the best program for integration of women into combat units’

Their experience integrating women into front line combat units has been very negative.

They have found that biggest issue is not whether women have the strength and physical endurance to do the job or to make effective soldiers, the big issue is that women, on average, are simply not physically rugged enough to withstand the abuse that hard core combat training and actual combat metes out to the human body.

The women are very well conditioned and highly motivated, but their injury rates are astronomical and the incidence of injury leading to serious permanent or long term disability is many times that of male soldiers and unacceptably high from a personal safety standpoint for the women.

This in no big news flash.

The disability rate for male career soldiers is very high and always has been.

Any reunion of old soldiers is full of talk of “second hand backs” and the like simply from humping 120 lb packs up and down the boonies for 20 years, not to mention actual combat injuries.

Examination of the remains of Napoleon's troops who marched through Russia show that their bodies were severely worn out at a very young age by the rigors of the military service of the day.

Hard soldiering takes it's toll on even the strongest and toughest men but it can be physically debilitating and lead to permanent physical disability for many women.

17 posted on 05/04/2015 10:28:52 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: GeronL

Not only will the standards be lowered for the women, but having women in a combat situation such as the SEALS, will get a lot of the male SEALS killed. The reason being if a female SEAL is in possible danger, you know that the male SEAL will do everything he can to protect her; thereby, putting himself in danger.


18 posted on 05/04/2015 10:29:54 AM PDT by kagnew
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To: Perseverando

PC is destroying the U.S.


19 posted on 05/04/2015 10:31:39 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: dp0622
I would categorize your answer as "(2) The 0bama administration is willfully destructive". I can't support a charge of incompetence from it.

Honestly, I don't think they are stupid or incompetent. Not at the top, anyway. The Harfs and Psakis ... sure. They're real morons. The bigwigs, though, are just too consistently wrong in the worst possible way for it not to be deliberate.

20 posted on 05/04/2015 10:32:08 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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