Posted on 05/02/2015 11:42:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
And the ironic thing is that JFK was a staunch anti-communist.
“The liberal Left will do its best to lie about that piece of history but I lived through it and I remember everything.”
So do I, brother. (USAF: 1970-1974)
JFK and LBJ were Republicans?
Horowitz is always a prize.
Doesn’t it seem odd that the best the lefties can do is go back to their halcyon days of the Vietnam war to reassert their political relevance? Yet they claim to be the party of “new” ideas?
We won the Vietnam War in 1973.
Long ago, Peter Rodman demolished that old canard.
By today's standards (JMHO), JFK would properly be classified as slightly to the right of a Rubio or Jeb Bush.
LBJ? Only allegiance he had was to what was best for LBJ. If he thought it would make him some votes, power or money, he'd be talkin' (at least) like he was more Conservative than anybody.
...and what would he do when/if he got into office? Just exactly what he did back in the 60's.
(People I knew down in LBJ's original House District firmly maintained that "he's so crooked, when he dies they won't have to dig to bury him; they can just run him into the ground like an auger.")
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....Back to this article, I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised.
Must be some really, truly deeply frightened ol' commies out there if they're going to start beating this drum again. (Guess the indoctrination didn't take so well and now they've got to spend the next 18 months in a Refresher mode.)
....don't have to "Refresh" me.
Naval Air '65-'76
I only scanned it, as it was utterly devoid of any content other than the writer’s juvenile scolding.
Yes, the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu - May 07, 1954 and JFK decided to involve us in the remnants of a Vietnamese civil war. As a former US Naval officer, he decided to send in Seals as advisers to the South Vietnamese armed forces. Eventually "mission creep" brought the numbers to some 30,000 "advisers".
After his death in Dallas LBJ took over and staged an "incident" in the gulf of Tonkin as an excuse to expand the involvement to a full blown war. The rest is history.
Regards,
GtG
A movement that included Michael Medved.
Below is part of Kengor's dare to liberals:
As to where McCarthy was right, I recommend that liberals read the extraordinary 2007 book by M. Stanton Evans, Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies. The material on China is astounding. The information on what really happened with McCarthy's notorious list of communists is stunning. The section on Edward R. Murrow is maddening. The chapter The Caveman in the Sewer is infuriating. Evans listed numerous names of communists who did terrible damage.
I urge all open-minded Freepers to read this book.
“Yes, the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu - May 07, 1954 and JFK decided to involve us in the remnants of a Vietnamese civil war.”
Well not exactly. We had Military Assistance Advisory Group officers in Vietnam as early as 1950 under Truman. When the French bugged out Eisenhower increased the MAAG presence.
Eisenhower sent advisers but no combat troops. The fighting was a classic Communist insurgency that targeted and murdered local village officials. It was sponsored and financed by the Soviets who called it a “civil war” in the the propaganda campaign they waged in the United States.
There were only 700-800 MAAG in South Vietnam as Eisenhower left office. The communist insurgency was growing and Kennedy began sending more American advisers, including Special Forces. Kennedy created MACV and ramped up the American presence to around 16,000.
In November 1963 Kennedy stood by and allowed a coup against South Vietnam President Diem. Diem was assassinated, then Kennedy was assassinated, and Lyndon Johnson inherited a rudderless South Vietnam. In 1964 South Vietnam had seven different leaders and was foundering. LBJ decided to send in American combat troops and the big buildup began.
What didn’t begin was a strategy and a willingness to invade North Vietnam and put an end to their ability to make war against the South, the strategy that solved the problem of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. Neither LBJ nor Nixon were willing to fight the Vietnam war to decisive conclusion.
IOW, Kerry for President. Salon prints the swill of partisan media shills.
by going to and opening relations with China, Nixon flanked the Russians in vietnam and eliminated the need for the war
Mainstream Media Try to Burn a Book
http://www.aim.org/aim-report/mainstream-media-try-to-burn-a-book/
http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas-ebook/dp/B000W94GOU/
Lots of hate and cognitive dissonance from a nutjob.
Thank you for clarifying my somewhat shortened version of events. I was much younger then and newly married and attending an engineering college. I wasn't paying much attention to the finer points of politics at the time. I was sweating out the draft for the most part. I was called down to the induction center and classified 1-A even though I'm blind in one eye. I was 1-A through the entire conflict and was never called up. I was passed over in the lotteries as well.
Regards,
GtG
PS I knew there was something wrong w/ the time line as the French bailed in 1957 and JFK was killed about 1963. I never realized that Truman was responsible for involving us in the fray.
Thanks again!
I am a bit younger than you but I lived it as well. I do not remember it the way the left portrays it. I do remember a young man who graduated high school with my sister who never came home.
Reagan was Governor of California, he had no influence about Vietnam. This is author is just whacked out crazy
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