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Question: Anybody Know Why No Grand Jury Needed In Maryland?

Posted on 05/01/2015 5:47:56 PM PDT by Cubs Fan

Is it up to the states attorney to decide? Or are there some rules about when a grand jury is necessary.

Bottom line why was there a grand jury in Ferguson but not in Maryland?


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To: Usagi_yo

Well her charges indicate that she thinks that they intentionally killed him.


21 posted on 05/01/2015 6:07:17 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37; Cubs Fan

The reason why there was a grand jury for Ferguson was that the DA did not want to be accused of favoratism toward the cop.


22 posted on 05/01/2015 6:09:09 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Cubs Fan

The persecutor prosecutor can decide whether or not there is enough evidence to bring charges without a grand jury.

23 posted on 05/01/2015 6:13:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: expat2

That’s cool.

I support grand juries. probable cause is not a high threshold at all.

Now we have a case were it looks like the state attorney is favoring a street mob.


24 posted on 05/01/2015 6:14:53 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: cripplecreek

After seeing the video of the DA’s remarks, it has confirmed an impression I have had for a long time. For decades now, I have observed a totalitarian streak with many of our minority office holders and public figures. The Jackson’s, the Sharpton’s would trash the Bill of Rights if ever given a chance. The rule of law means absolutely nothing to these people, it is mob rule and revolutionary tribunals that strike their fancy.


25 posted on 05/01/2015 6:14:56 PM PDT by gusty
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To: expat2

Follow on question: If a grand jury is optional for an indictment why have one? (Often wondered about the grand jury system and why it was needed.)


26 posted on 05/01/2015 6:18:34 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: cripplecreek

Sure she over charged them, like they say “throw enough shit on the wall and some of it will stick”. She is not interested in justice she wants a conviction against cops, it paves the way for any political career going forward.


27 posted on 05/01/2015 6:21:15 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: Cubs Fan

I thank God I live in bfe Nebraska.


28 posted on 05/01/2015 6:22:33 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Americanexpat

I think she should consider her career over. She’s not going to win this and Baltimore will burn.


29 posted on 05/01/2015 6:24:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: smokingfrog
Why not just a public hanging?

Crowds love that.

30 posted on 05/01/2015 6:26:53 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: chris37

Not so strange if a jury is allowed to consider lesser charges. If not, then she’s done them a favor in the long run as without direct and corroborating testimony, they’ll never find them guilty of first degree murder — or whatever the top murder charge is in Maryland.

I’m surprised nobody mentioned the DA’s screw up: “they illegally arrested Mr. Gray”. I don’t think there is such a crime.


31 posted on 05/01/2015 6:34:24 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: cripplecreek
She’s not going to win this and Baltimore will burn.

I think the point is to delay the burning.

32 posted on 05/01/2015 6:37:03 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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To: Usagi_yo
. I don’t think there is such a crime.

There is no "crime" of illegal arrest but there is the fourth amendment.

33 posted on 05/01/2015 6:38:13 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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To: palmer

About 8 to 12 months from now will be when it all blows up.


34 posted on 05/01/2015 6:40:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Cubs Fan

The NFL Draft is nothing more then a slave market! /s


35 posted on 05/01/2015 6:43:10 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: palmer

I know, but police are given sooooo much deference with arrests that it’s surprising charge and probably best left to the Feds.

That’s not the worst of it. I just finished watching the entire press conference with the State Attorney. She fell into a flat out political/racist speech. She really does need to recuse herself.


36 posted on 05/01/2015 6:44:36 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: Usagi_yo

Here is a list of the charges”

Officer Caesar Goodson Jr., 45, who was the driver of a police van that carried Gray through the streets of Baltimore, was charged with second-degree murder, manslaughter, second-degree assault, two vehicular manslaughter charges and misconduct in office. A man who answered the phone at Goodson’s home declined to comment and hung up the phone.

Officer William Porter, 25, was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.

Lt. Brian Rice, 41, was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.

Sgt. Alicia White, 30, was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.

Officer Edward Nero, 29, was charged with second-degree assault and misconduct in office.

Officer Garrett Miller, 26, was charged with second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-mosby-presser-0502-20150501-story.html#page=1

Looks like the highest charge is 2nd degree murder on the driver of the van.

I suppose the false imprisonment charge is related to the arrest based upon the pocket knife, which appears to me to be a mistaken arrest.

I am curious if every policeman who arrests a person on charge that later does not hold up for whatever reason is charged with false imprisonment.


37 posted on 05/01/2015 6:44:43 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: doc1019

In Baltimore, it is not optional. She has to take the case to a GJ within, I think, 30 days. What she did was to announce that there was probable cause so they could be arrested.


38 posted on 05/01/2015 6:50:12 PM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

TY


39 posted on 05/01/2015 6:54:35 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: CGASMIA68

>My 1st thought...Maybe a CYA for her,either way.
Either way from here I hope she goes down and down hard<

She wont go down. If she loses then it will be the fault of racist America.


40 posted on 05/01/2015 6:58:54 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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