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IPad Glitch Affects American Airlines Flights, Issue Likely Related To Recent Software Update
.ibtimes.com ^ | April 29 2015 | Kukil Bora

Posted on 04/29/2015 1:42:41 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

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To: Swordmaker
I am well aware of the economics of the Chi-com region. I have been doing business (selling) there since 1980.

One question. Can every Foxconn worker walk away at the end of the shift free and clear without the company trying to collect owed monies from them? The answer is no.

Riots, suicides and work stoppages - must be a GREAT place to work!

221 posted on 04/30/2015 1:10:11 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Swordmaker
"The statement states the "app" quit. . . and the "app. . . crashed". Not ever did it state that the iPad crashed."

But it also did not state it didn't in fact power down.

Basic logic tells us that an app crashing can manifest in multiple ways including powering down the unit for a restart. Are you claiming that you know for a fact the units did not shutdown? If so provide at least a report that states the units did not in fact do that.

But on the other hand there are reports of the unit powering down. There are NO reports that say in fact that did not happen. There are reports that say the app crashed and that is not proof of your assertion. And that Sparky is fact!

222 posted on 04/30/2015 1:24:16 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
But it also did not state it didn't in fact power down.

Wow! You just won't give up your irrational position. That did not say that pigs did not fly as well, Mad Dawgg. It is not American Airline's job to list everything that did not happen in the incident, their statement is intended to explain what DID happen, not what did NOT happen. SHEESH.

223 posted on 04/30/2015 2:05:30 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
"The statement states the "app" quit. . . and the "app. . . crashed". Not ever did it state that the iPad crashed. YOU are the one basing your statements on verbal gymnastics and hearsay evidence from third-hand TWEETS of passengers writing after the fact in 144 character blurbs as opposed to official statement from people who have all the facts from an investigation and who have no ax to grind. Sorry, you lose."

American Airlines told Recode that a new version of a runway map for Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport conflicted with an older version of the map stored on the pilots’ iPads, causing the iPads to power down unexpectedly.

American Airlines: iPad app glitch causes devices to power down, delays dozens of flights

And that would be game set and match Sparky...

Bwah hahahahahahah!

224 posted on 04/30/2015 2:08:52 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: mad_as_he$$
One question. Can every Foxconn worker walk away at the end of the shift free and clear without the company trying to collect owed monies from them? The answer is no. Riots, suicides and work stoppages - must be a GREAT place to work!

Good grief. You'll believe anything, won't you? Yes, if they don't live in the company dorm, and a good percentage of the live in town, they'll owe nothing to the company. Dorm rent is fixed, and a minor amount. You are again arguing facts not in evidence.

The suicide rate during the WORST period at FoxConn was one-quarter of the suicide rate of the Chinese population for the same age cohorts . . . One-eighth the rate for the same rate for the same age group in American Ivy League Universities, and that rate was 0.25 per 100,000 population, when the U.S. suicide rate was 11 per 100,000. SHEESH!

Foxconn now has around one suicide per year among 1.2 MILLION workers. You have no clue what you are talking about.

225 posted on 04/30/2015 2:45:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

“Foxconn now has around....”

Operative word being “now”. Historically it was higher but the put up engineering measures.

“To address its worker’s suicidal thoughts and actions, Foxconn has begun offering a 24-hour hotline. Mental health counseling is also provided to workers who need it. These offerings only popped up years after complaints and recommendations were made.”

http://www.technologytell.com/apple/148679/working-living-conditions-improving-foxconn/

And you deny jobs are not bought a Foxconn, you are the liar. It is common practice at Foxconn and other Asia companies to buy a job - which you then have to work off the debt. I have confirmed that many times with my business associates in China - one of whom does business with Foxconn.

So I post a link and you say it isn’t true but supply no evidence in support of your rebuttal. Sorry no sale. Every one of the hundreds of stories can’t be untrue and you don’t get be right just because you say so.


226 posted on 04/30/2015 4:51:42 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$
"To address its worker’s suicidal thoughts and actions, Foxconn has begun offering a 24-hour hotline. Mental health counseling is also provided to workers who need it. These offerings only popped up years after complaints and recommendations were made.”

Look idiot, those claims of action being taken only "years later" are completely false and have been debunked numerous times.

This has been addressed more than ten times on Freerepublic and I'm not going to do it again for your benefit at the end of a long thread. Those posts debunking this included links with proofs.

The facts are that there were during an 18 month period centered around 2010, there were 18 suicides among FoxConn's 27 manufacturing plants, employing, during those 18 months between 650,000 and 750,000 employees.

One single plant, during a period of eight months had 6 of those suicides. That plant manufactured Microsoft Xboxes, HP Computers, Sony Playstations, and Nokia flip phones. That plant was located 150 miles away from the nearest plant manufacturing or assembling any Apple products. These are well documented facts.

About 15 months before that cluster of suicides, in late 2008, a mid-level engineer in FoxConn was arrested and questioned by the Chinese police about the theft of a manufacturing prototype of the next model iPhone, after being questioned for ten hours, he was released. He went home to his fifth floor apartment and jumped to his death. That is the only known suicide associated with Apple products at FoxConn. . . and it is not connected in any way with working conditions but rather with a crime.

227 posted on 04/30/2015 5:42:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
The cost of living in China has to be considered in the figure.

According to you, chinese slave-labor workers assembling iProducts earn the equivalent of up to $52/hour. I bet that's more than what you make. Maybe you should get a job in a chinese workhouse assembling apple stuff and rake in the dough.

228 posted on 04/30/2015 9:16:49 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Swordmaker
Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say.

"pay levels are the equivalent of being paid between $23 to $52 per hour for factory work."-- Swordmaker

"China is no longer communist. Perhaps you just did not notice when it left communism behind... China embraced what worked when they realized that Communism did not work. --Swordmaker

Clearly, Apple and its fanbuoys are apologists for Communist China. Add that to their numerous list of crimes. Reason number #1,002,...,981 not to buy Apple.

229 posted on 04/30/2015 9:34:07 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; PA Engineer; Star Traveler; amigatec; IncPen; Loud Mime; House Atreides
"pay levels are the equivalent of being paid between $23 to $52 per hour for factory work."-- Sword maker
"China is no longer communist. Perhaps you just did not notice when it left communism behind... China embraced what worked when they realized that Communism did not work. --Swordmaker

Clearly, Apple and its fanbuoys are apologists for Communist China.

Taking my words completely out of context to distort what I said is REPREHENSIBLE and dishonest lying, Ethan. You act just exactly like a Democrat Liberal ASSHAT!

230 posted on 04/30/2015 9:40:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
You act just exactly like a Democrat Liberal

On the contrary, you are an apologist for Communist China.

231 posted on 04/30/2015 9:43:25 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; PA Engineer; Star Traveler; amigatec; IncPen; Loud Mime; House Atreides
On the contrary, you are an apologist for Communist China.

"Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say. If I want to say that, I would have said it. I did not. Your implying I did is a lie, making you a liar. I don't engage in conversations with liars who distort my clearly articulated statements for their own ends. . . especially one who has no clue about economics and spouts buzz words."

232 posted on 04/30/2015 9:50:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
a mid-level engineer in FoxConn was arrested and questioned by the Chinese police about the theft of a manufacturing prototype of the next model iPhone, after being questioned for ten hours, he was released.

I heard he was also beaten, tortured, etc. Seems like the chinese communist police work for Apple.

He went home to his fifth floor apartment and jumped to his death. That is the only known suicide

Lol. "Suicide". It's far more likely that someone (guess where?) gave the the order to off this guy. He was pushed out of a window, the same fate as many other troublesome employees.

233 posted on 04/30/2015 10:13:49 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; PA Engineer; Star Traveler; amigatec; IncPen; Loud Mime; House Atreides
I heard he was also beaten, tortured, etc. Seems like the chinese communist police work for Apple.

Lol. "Suicide". It's far more likely that someone (guess where?) gave the the order to off this guy. He was pushed out of a window, the same fate as many other troublesome employees.

Innuendo and snide lies from an Anti-Apple hate Brigade Member citing evidence certainly NOT in evidence any where. Who would have guessed that one of them would make up such a claim?

234 posted on 04/30/2015 10:52:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
"Who would have guessed that one of them would make up such a claim?"

Pot/kettle?

Aren't you the same guy who told us because you know for a fact 24 minutes between iPad shutdowns by the glitch wasn't possible and because the AA official statement didn't mention it that it was clear evidence that indeed theunits did not power down?

Bwah hahahahaha American Airlines told Recode that a new version of a runway map for Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport conflicted with an older version of the map stored on the pilots’ iPads, causing the iPads to power down unexpectedly.

It amazes me how many times you are proved wrong on this yet you still claim to be an expert.

But keep flailing about Sparky cause its better than a movie....

235 posted on 05/01/2015 1:16:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Haiku Guy

>> But the iPad is not integrated into the flight controls in any way.

And apparently not subject to stringent security and reliability measures.


236 posted on 05/01/2015 1:27:53 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Riots, suicides and work stoppages - must be a GREAT place to work!

Apple’s Shameful Secret: Watch Factory Worker’s Dead Body Discovered In River After Suspected Suicide

237 posted on 05/06/2015 2:14:43 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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