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Ted Cruz knocks Scott Walker on immigration
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/24/2015 | Drucker

Posted on 04/24/2015 4:12:26 PM PDT by VinL

Sen. Ted Cruz on Friday took a shot at rival presidential contender Scott Walker for comments the Wisconsin governor has made regarding immigration policy.

Cruz opposes comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship for the estimated 11-12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States. But the Texan is a big proponent of legal immigration and making adjustments to U.S. law that would facilitate more legal immigration. He criticized Walker for suggesting that he supported limiting legal immigration if it has a negative impact on the wages of American workers.

"There is considerable bipartisan agreement outside of Washington that we need to improve and streamline legal immigration so that we can remain a nation that welcomes and celebrates legal immigrants," Cruz said in an interview with the Washington Examiner during a brief campaign swing through Las Vegas.after cost estimates came in higher than anticipated.

I think it is a mistake for any politician to on the one hand embrace amnesty, embrace a pathway to citizenship for those who are here illegally, and on the other hand seek to restrict or punish legal immigrants," Cruz continued. "I am the son of an immigrant who came legally from Cuba. [President Ronald] Reagan referred to legal immigrants as Americans by choice and there is no stronger advocate of legal immigration in the U.S. Senate than I am."

"I think the right approach is to secure the border, follow the rule of law and embrace and improve legal immigration," Cruz said.

Walker has conceded a change of heart on immigration policy as he gears up to launch a 2016 presidential bid. The governor, 47, previously supported a pathway to legal status for illegal immigrants. Now he is opposed. Supporting a pathway to legalization or citizenship could be problematic for a Republican candidate seeking his party's White House nomination.

But in a recent interview with conservative talk show host Glenn Beck, Walker appeared to move farther to the right on immigration than even amnesty hawks like Cruz. Here's what Walker said, as reported by Breitbart. (read more)


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To: VinL

Which is what they do not want.vThey want another Romney like they voted for last time. They want more Bhoner like they demaded and more Turtle like they demanded. It’s all there in the post history. Lesser evil, not conservatism.


101 posted on 04/24/2015 5:25:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: DoughtyOne

Cruz:

“I think it is a mistake for any politician to on the one hand embrace amnesty, embrace a pathway to citizenship for those who are here illegally, and on the other hand seek to restrict or punish legal immigrants, Cruz continued.”

DoughtyOne:

“IMO, this is the money quote. It’s exactly what Walker’s policy is. He lies about it, but at the end of the day Walker wants illegals to pay a fine and stay.

That is the GOPe Chamber of Commerce stance right there.

The guy may fool the weak minded, but he’s not fooling anyone who listens closely, isn’t already in the tank for him, or playing games for the GOPe.”

Perfect, You just stated (much more eloquently) what I was working on when I saw your new comment to me.

This is all healthy discussion, and it is so early.


102 posted on 04/24/2015 5:26:14 PM PDT by right way right
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To: DoughtyOne
Look, I get it. You don't like Scott Walker because you think he is a liar. You support Ted Cruz.

But that is a distraction in terms of this thread. In terms of substance, i.e., increasing legal immigration, you have stated that Cruz is wrong. That is the point. Walker is right on this issue and Cruz is wrong.

103 posted on 04/24/2015 5:27:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: VinL

Gov Walker has hired Mccain and Romney people as his advisors so his sudden shift on immigration is not trustworthy with advisors like that!!


104 posted on 04/24/2015 5:27:07 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I meant to type 100,000 a year, not a fricking million.

I'm an unapologetic hardliner on immigration. One million of the right type of immigrant is possibly fine but a even a single one of the wrong type is the path to destruction. Numbers along can't be the metric for a pro-American immigration policy. Each individual must be thoroughly inspected and only after passing a rigorous set of unwavering standards can an immigrant be admitted to the Greatest Country on Earth. The borders must be sealed to not only prevent the criminal invaders but also to prohibit those unqualified for American citizenship from entering.

105 posted on 04/24/2015 5:27:10 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“Granted, their food is better, but why is it the norm is to have nearly 30 times as many Mexican as British immigrants?”

http://humanevents.com/2013/05/22/coulter-when-did-we-vote-to-become-mexico/

“Why can’t the country be more or less the ethnic composition that it always was? The 50-1 Latin American-to-European ratio isn’t a natural phenomenon that might result from, say, Europeans losing interest in coming here and poor Latin Americans providing some unique skill desperately needed in our modern, technology-based economy.”

“From around 1630 to 1966, immigrants sank or swam. About a third of them couldn’t make it in America and went home — and those are the ones who weren’t rejected right off the boat for being sick, crippled or idiots.”


106 posted on 04/24/2015 5:27:23 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: reasonisfaith
You’re getting carried away by your imagination.

Let's resume this discussion when Cruz is being sworn in come January 2017.

107 posted on 04/24/2015 5:27:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: VanDeKoik

So you are going to play idiot and do whatever you can to not discuss current immigration and the thread topic.

How can you be on FR and not have a clue who makes up the American left and the democrat party?

How can you not know why the democrats sought to create this immigration and now protect it and want more of it?

How can you so dishonestly pretend that you don’t know that immigrants are what are overcoming everything that native Americans fight for?

You really don’t know who votes for the democrats and who is counted on to deliver them America, state by state?


108 posted on 04/24/2015 5:27:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: right way right

RWR, Cruz’s position is- “I think the right approach is to secure the border, follow the rule of law and embrace and improve legal immigration”

It’s the right position- Walker will not be able to defend his.


109 posted on 04/24/2015 5:28:12 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: kabar
You can attack Walker all you want, but why not focus on substance.

Illegal immigration is not substantive?  That's your stance?  Who is feeding you these lines?  Kabar, seriously, that's just nonsense.

You are acting as if it's wrong to take a guy to task for lying about the number one issue facing our nation.  I'm not being unfair to Walker.

He's a liar, doesn't know that Obama hates this nation, and can't seem to relize he has the identical immigration policy favored by the GOPe / Chamber of Commerce on illegal immigration.


Cruz advocates increasing legal immigration and he attacks Walker like a Democrat.

Then I guess you think I'm a Democrat too don't you.  What possible reason would I have to object to Walker's immigration policy, if it was what he stated it was?

The answer is, I wouldn't.

He is painting Walker as being against legal immigration.

He stated that he didn't agree with Walker's stance on legal immigration, but I can't be confident Walker really means that part of his "reported" platform either, since he lied about the other part.

Let's recap.  He says he changed his immigraton policy so illegals can't stay.  He makes a big deal of his tour of the border and talking to other governers.  This supposed really effect his views.  It sounded real good.

Then he participated in an interview just weeks ago and lets it slip that if illegals pay a fine, they can stay.


Karl Rove, McCain, and Graham used to attack such people as Walker as bigots, nativists, and xenophobes.

No they didn't.  They used to attack people who held the views Walker doesn't really hold.  No offense, but you are really confused here.

Cruz is trying to prevent a rational discussion of immigration as a public policy issue by demonizing Walker.

Walker lied.  Everyone with a lick of sense knows he lied.  I've linked you to where Walker proves my point.  You still don't get it.  It couldn't be more clear.

It won’t work.

Walker lied.  I hope it doesn't work, even though you were referencing Cruz's supposed evil nature.  Not buying the spin from the GOPe here.

110 posted on 04/24/2015 5:28:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Norm Lenhart

So where do you stand on the Cruz position?


111 posted on 04/24/2015 5:28:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: VinL
But the Texan is a big proponent of legal immigration and making adjustments to U.S. law that would facilitate more legal immigration.

But the U.S. does not need any more of this endless legal immigration at this point in our history.

In fact what America desperately needs is a 10 year moratorium on all legal immigration across the board. This is long over due.

112 posted on 04/24/2015 5:29:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: right way right

Thanks Right Way Right.


113 posted on 04/24/2015 5:30:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: VanDeKoik

Why don’t you answer this question?

When will you agree to end mass immigration, at 500 million, 800 million, 1.2 billion, why not now, at 330 million, 130 million more than what we had when we went to the moon, and a quarter century after winning WWII?


114 posted on 04/24/2015 5:30:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: VanDeKoik

I like Cruz, but we don’t need a 500% increase in H1B visas that he supports.


115 posted on 04/24/2015 5:31:54 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: kabar

Cruz is trying to prevent a rational discussion of immigration as a public policy issue by demonizing Walker.
*************

Don’t think so. Cruz loves to discuss issues— he’s inviting that discussion. I think Cruz is confident that Walker will retreat from his current posture...that’s why he’s calling him out.


116 posted on 04/24/2015 5:31:57 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
My great grand parents immigrated from Germany around 1900 and they were productive citizens so what is your point against legal immigration ?

Did your great grandparents come here on H-1B visas, taking jobs away from Americans, who were forced to train them as a condition of receiving severance pay?

117 posted on 04/24/2015 5:32:26 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: kabar

Simple. He’s correct. He wants to fix legal immigration. Did he say open floodgates? No. You and the rest of the Liar’s fan club put words in his mouth he never said.

Cruz is 100% on the vast majority of long held conservative principle. Only an abject moron would reject that and call themselves a conservative with America’s interest at heart.

Or a liberal.


118 posted on 04/24/2015 5:32:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Drew68

30 million illegals

A few thousand lettuce pickers

Thanks Drew. That really cleared things up.


119 posted on 04/24/2015 5:33:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes, Americans have no obligation to allow any foreigner into the country.

This is an important question in the Western world: will we allow mass immigration to swamp the electorate and change our country’s identity.

A pathway to legalization and citizenship is a pathway to exercise political power. This country more and more resembles a third world country. I’m old enough to see this happening.


120 posted on 04/24/2015 5:34:06 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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