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No, Senator Rubio, Homosexuals Aren't Born that Way
AFA ^ | Monday, April 20, 2015 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 04/20/2015 5:01:58 PM PDT by xzins

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I believe some are born gay; it's a birth defect, most likely caused by a pathogen while the fetus is gestating. The rest? They either get converted or they can't literally buy a date with the opposite sex so they turn gay.
41 posted on 04/20/2015 6:08:57 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Why does one child from three or four children wind up homosexual and the rest don’t?

D1, I think the simplest answer is what Romans chapter 1 provides as the explanation. It's a choice. Or, they refused to honor God, instead making their own selfish will their God, and as Paul stated, God gives them over to their desires as a punishment.

It perfectly describes the "Why".
42 posted on 04/20/2015 6:09:08 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: DoughtyOne; xzins
My cherished DrO did one of his doctorate's on this very subject “are homosexuals born or made homosexual?”

He conducted an extensive study of identical twins, ( spanning the globe from Great Britain, Denmark & other European countries to the U.S.) when research was very limited in those days (the late 60’s) and he determined that a significant number of MALE identical twins, did indeed both reach adulthood as homosexuals, even when raised in separate homes.

He found no such evidence among female “lesbians.”

This is NOT to say that all or even a majority of homosexuals are “born that way;” it merely supports a fact that there exists a mutated gene or predisposition ‘somewhere,’ that isn't all that strong.

You must remember that before their massive campaign, homosexuals were in the closet and the majority married and reproducing, while secretly engaging in homosexuality on the side.

Calling themselves GAY, is such a stupid term, because most are not happy at all, unless they're the ones who have elected to “be gay.”

The majority of the ones ‘born homosexual’ would much rather be heterosexual.

43 posted on 04/20/2015 6:09:48 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ll say this and then drop out of this discussion. This is something I don’t think anyone has an answer to, so I don’t want to carry this on across the thread.

You talk of God giving them over to their desires, and I have no problem with that description.

Where do the homosexual desires come from in the first place?

Three kids grow up gender appropriate, and the fourth winds up with “desires”. I don’t grasp why.

You can respond if you want. I will drop out now. Not trying to be a negative force here. This has come to mind over the years.

Take care.


44 posted on 04/20/2015 6:13:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I can imagine that it would be fairly easy for a weird uncle or cousin or whoever to isolate one twin and take advantage of them for a short time at a family gathering(s).


45 posted on 04/20/2015 6:15:04 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: DoughtyOne

The short answer is Yes.

And 68% is LOW.

It’s just difficult to get accurate data from surveys.

You can google all kinds of studies and most since 1990 will range between 25% and 50%, but there’s good reason to believe those have been politically sanitized.

Keep in mind that molesters aren’t usually hit and run. They persist over time. So the victims are being shaped.


46 posted on 04/20/2015 6:16:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Hillary Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: onyx

I appreciate the mention. I don’t want to characterize the homosexuals I’ve met as being sorry. I have known one that was and I believe others to be.

You do touch on something I’ve noticed, and I use it as evidence that they are not happy. The ones that act out in public and make big demands on heterosexuals in the community, don’t seem happy.

They seem quite unhappy and desirous of taking it out on those they can. They are sometimes openly hostile to straight people. This isn’t normal. There’s a conflict going on in them.


47 posted on 04/20/2015 6:17:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I don’t grasp why.


Do you ask why one kid steals, or one kid lies or do you just squash the behavior...............................


48 posted on 04/20/2015 6:19:21 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Roos_Girl

That is possible. I agree.


49 posted on 04/20/2015 6:20:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: G Larry

Thanks G Larry.


50 posted on 04/20/2015 6:20:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Well you try to squash it. You can try that with this too. Good luck with that now a days.


51 posted on 04/20/2015 6:22:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

It explains it for me, and was an honest attempt to answer the question you directed to me. I do not think they have the same experiences. I don’t think that’s even possible.


52 posted on 04/20/2015 6:25:15 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Must be a choice, “Mayoral candidate Bill de Blasio’s wife Chirlane McCray, a former lesbian, opens up about falling in love with a man”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-wife-chirlane-mccray-talks-lesbian-article-1.1339398


53 posted on 04/20/2015 6:26:24 PM PDT by petenmi
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To: driftless2

For the same reason that some nights I want a coffee and other nights I want a Coke. I’ve learned I can drink either.


54 posted on 04/20/2015 6:27:24 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

In general terms I agree, but there seems to be a need for something a little more meaningful than the small differences they may encounter, as least to my way of thinking.

Look, I don’t want to continue this on your thread. I appreciate you explaining your take on it. It’s a decent a suggestion as anything I have up to now.

Take care.


55 posted on 04/20/2015 6:27:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re exactly right.
The hostility is a cover for some deep inner-conflict, envy of the straight and guilt.


56 posted on 04/20/2015 6:27:59 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: onyx

Thanks Onyx. Take care...


57 posted on 04/20/2015 6:28:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I know two people personally, one who claims to be gay, and the other lesbian. They are the only ones that I know personally in my life. Funny thing though, is that they have both confided in me at some point. The guy confided to me as an adolescent that his baseball coach masturbated with him as a 12 year old, and showed him porn to do it. The lesbian told me that her uncle raped her when she was four years old. So, of the two that I know personally, both of them were “molested” in my view.


58 posted on 04/20/2015 6:30:24 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: DoughtyOne

You, too, Sweetie Pie.


59 posted on 04/20/2015 6:30:52 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: onyx

= ;^)


60 posted on 04/20/2015 6:33:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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