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No, Senator Rubio, Homosexuals Aren't Born that Way
AFA ^ | Monday, April 20, 2015 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 04/20/2015 5:01:58 PM PDT by xzins

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To: onyx

Statistically significant is not a bad measure, but also doesn’t necessarily even mean that it would be recognizable to the normal observer. So, this article pointing out somewhere between 5-11 percent could be significant. It doesn’t, however, begin to approach genetic typology as we have with race. Twins born of black African American parents are going to be black.

The assumption is that identical DNA would ALL be the same. That they are NOT the same argues against genetic determinism and must turn toward either an ‘influence’.

But I can find an ‘influence’ in tallness for the playing of basketball.


61 posted on 04/20/2015 6:33:47 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FamiliarFace

As an adult, it’s your charge to help grow up the next generation. I do not understand people who can do this to kids.

Raping a four year old? Do that to the boy?

Where’s the honestly when some of these folks address the public?

One wonders just what percentage of this group is a walking advertisement against child abuse.


62 posted on 04/20/2015 6:36:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: xzins

It’s not inborn; it’s acquired.


63 posted on 04/20/2015 6:37:59 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: RaceBannon

Excellant reference material. Thank!


64 posted on 04/20/2015 6:40:35 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Theodore R.

I think that explains almost all of it.


65 posted on 04/20/2015 6:42:10 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Theodore R.

I’m sure you have a medical degree and have done extensive research.


66 posted on 04/20/2015 6:43:53 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: xzins
I believe many sodomites are suffering from a birth defect, so in that sense they are “born that way” the same way some people are born with three legs or conjoined to their twin. They are freaks of nature.

The rest are suffering from some sort of trauma inflicted upon them like rape.

67 posted on 04/20/2015 6:48:11 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: RginTN

bi-sexual is simply a stop-over on the way to gay town.

lol


68 posted on 04/20/2015 6:49:44 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Why is the media obsessed with homosexuals? Makes you wonder.


69 posted on 04/20/2015 6:51:51 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: DoughtyOne

Parents sometimes treat children differently. I have seen it. Could make a difference in their outcome.


70 posted on 04/20/2015 6:54:38 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s possible that even though siblings are raised in the same home, one may receive different treatment, have a different experience outside the home (such as molestation), etc.

I knew two brothers years ago. One was very much a rough and tumble boy, athletic, hunter, fished, etc. The father definitely favoured him over his brother, a quiet, artistic, not-so-macho type. He didn’t receive much attention or confirmation from his father.

I lost track of them, but last I knew, the milder son was rumoured to be homosexual.


71 posted on 04/20/2015 6:56:27 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: DoughtyOne

The boy was a friend of my son. He was troubled, with no father at home. His mother put him into sports hoping that the fatherly influence of coaches would be good role models. I didn’t know his baseball coach, but I told his mom about what he had confided in me. I guess she never did anything with it. Then when the boys were going to college, he came out as gay. I watched him grow up from a toddler through middle school to high school. I never once, not once, thought he was gay, effeminate, or anything of the sort. He was a troubled young man though, and my husband and I did what we could to be positive role models in his life. I told him when he confided in me that what his coach did with him was wrong. That’s why I went to his mother, and we shared a good cry. Part of me wonders if it was my responsibility to call the police myself. I didn’t think it was. I thought talking with his Mom was the right thing to do. They knew they had my backing.

The young lady I met when she was a young adult. We worked together in retail. She had trouble getting along with others, but somehow I managed to get her to be agreeable with me. After several months, we would talk on breaks or after hours. She eventually confided to me about her uncle. He served time, but she still had trust issues. So I think she was forced to be lesbian because she just doesn’t have any idea how to trust a man. It’s very sad.

With these two examples, I will always doubt anyone and everyone who tries to tell me that they were born that way. Although anecdotal, my observations suggest otherwise regarding homosexual causes.


72 posted on 04/20/2015 6:57:48 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: RaceBannon

The proper answer is “I am a politician not a doctor. You should ask someone who has researched it and drawn a scientific conclusion. Now, if you would like to talk about taxes or regulations I am your guy.”


73 posted on 04/20/2015 7:04:01 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Gritty
God wouldn't consider homosexuality as a sin

God doesn't consider homosexuality a sin.....homosexual behavior yes.

74 posted on 04/20/2015 7:09:51 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: publius911

This is the best answer. Often I say it to myself, “the Constitution is almost defunct and we’re plunging into a Stalinist totalitarian dictatorship, so questions such as these are irrelevant and inappropriate in a free republic.”
All of us should stay on fundamentals and never digress. We are too close to the end of life as we know it, tragically.


75 posted on 04/20/2015 7:12:38 PM PDT by The Westerner
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To: xzins
That does not argue against a natural desire. Most people on this forum state that it's just natural to desire sex with people of the opposite sex. They're correct.

Then why wouldn't it be natural for homos to desire people of their sex? It would be natural.

You still have to explain to me why a person like Rock Hudson would choose ugly guys like Jim Nabors for "sex" rather than the numerous attractive females who would have been eager to engage Hudson in as much sex (regular or weird) as he liked.

How does a guy with normal sexual desires look at someone like Nabors and think "boy, I sure would like to get some of that." He wouldn't...unless someone had a gun pointed at his head or he thought Gomer was really some hot property. And you have to be really mentally twisted to think the latter. It's not like choosing coffee or coke...it's like choosing a delicious steak dinner or a meal of raw pig intestines.

76 posted on 04/20/2015 7:13:45 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: xzins

Where will this story be carried? What major network or media outlet? Will it be taught in schools?


77 posted on 04/20/2015 7:14:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Gritty

So far as the Bible goes, I can see only one non-harmful outlet for human sexuality, but I see everyone equipped with sexual desire and sexual equipment.

So, I find it no different for a homosexual to control his sexuality than for anyone else. We are all wired to have sex, but that doesn’t mean all outlets are helpful. Most are harmful.


78 posted on 04/20/2015 7:20:31 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: driftless2

I think I just did explain it for you. Thirst is natural, necessary, and absolutely a physical need/drive. I’ve learned I can drink different drinks. Sometimes I want a coffee (sort of bitter drink) and sometimes I want a Coke (sweet drink). Ugly/pretty.


79 posted on 04/20/2015 7:27:09 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

You’re not getting me. Homosexuality is so disgusting to normal heterosexuals, you’ve got to be naturally twisted to get into it. It’s not like choosing a different beverage.


80 posted on 04/20/2015 7:30:43 PM PDT by driftless2
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