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Graham Knocks Cruz On Guns And Tyranny: 'We Tried That Once... I'm Not Looking For An Insurrection'
Talking Points Memo ^ | 4/16/2015 | Sahil Kapor

Posted on 04/16/2015 12:53:07 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz's argument that the Second Amendment provides the "ultimate check against government tyranny" is a bit too extreme for potential 2016 rival and fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

"Well, we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn't go down that road again," Graham said, in an apparent reference to the Civil War. "I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets."

Speaking to a few reporters near the Senate floor Thursday, Graham was answering questions from TPM about the Texas firebrand and presidential candidate's argument made in a fundraising email that the Second Amendment confers a right to revolt against the government.

"The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution isn't for just protecting hunting rights, and it's not only to safeguard your right to target practice. It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives, and to serve as the ultimate check against governmental tyranny -- for the protection of liberty," Cruz wrote in the email Thursday, with the subject line "2nd Amendment against tyranny."

Graham demurred. "I'm not looking for an insurrection. I'm looking to defeat Hillary," he said. "We're not going to out-gun her."

While a consistent supporter of gun rights, Graham voiced a more mainstream legal view of the Second Amendment, as the Supreme Court first articulated in the landmark 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, that individuals have a right to possess a firearm for lawful self-defense.

"I think the Second Amendment allows people to protect their homes and their property and be secure in their persons," the senator said. "I think in a democracy the best check on government is voter participation. I think the First Amendment probably protects us more there."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; cruz; election2016; lindseygraham; secondamendment; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas
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To: upchuck

Flimsy Tinkerbell ping ...


41 posted on 04/16/2015 1:11:22 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: cripplecreek

if the south is wrong be a northern liberal .... sorry Creek ... couldn’t resist ...


42 posted on 04/16/2015 1:12:37 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our Government ... Lead!!!!)
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To: VinL
"I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets."

Ideally it might be, but you can't have an "informed electorate" when the bastards in DC lie to us with impunity. If he doesn't like Plan B, maybe he should be working a little harder on Plan A.

43 posted on 04/16/2015 1:13:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: VinL

An informed electorate would not leave itself defenseless.


44 posted on 04/16/2015 1:13:24 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: VinL

Hell Linda ... I don’t care about guns in the street ... just one in my hand without your say so .... get it ?


45 posted on 04/16/2015 1:14:09 PM PDT by knarf
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To: DannyTN

it was nice of D.C. to build that Loop ... makes invasion easy.


46 posted on 04/16/2015 1:14:44 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our Government ... Lead!!!!)
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To: VinL

Ladies and Gentlemen: Senator Muffin Cumberpatch, ie Lindsey Graham...


47 posted on 04/16/2015 1:15:10 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: VinL

Interesting concept - VOTING. On the other hand, it seems no matter how we vote, the government grows fatter and meaner. We vote R, they act D.


48 posted on 04/16/2015 1:15:23 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: no-to-illegals

Tiny Dancer belongs to DC and no one else.


49 posted on 04/16/2015 1:15:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Regulator

Guess the founding fathers were too radical for him as well.

If we had won in the south then would he be saying the same thing?


50 posted on 04/16/2015 1:15:52 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: cripplecreek

knew you were Southern (in your heart)!


51 posted on 04/16/2015 1:16:16 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our Government ... Lead!!!!)
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To: Maceman

LOL most of congress woul;d not have got voted in.

Anyone seen Waters world or what ever his name is for Bill O Reilly ? His questions are good but seeing how people answer pisses me off. First it’s funny at how stupid they are but then you understand that these people can vote which cancels my vote out


52 posted on 04/16/2015 1:17:19 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: VinL

“potential 2016 rival and fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham”

Please, Sen. Graham, run against Cruz so we can watch him utterly destroy you in the debates.


53 posted on 04/16/2015 1:18:18 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: no-to-illegals

Just a big fan of freedom although we do have a lot of southerners here in SE Michigan.


54 posted on 04/16/2015 1:18:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: VinL

Tomato Lindsey is afraid he might break a nail.


55 posted on 04/16/2015 1:18:43 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: VinL

Graham demurred. “I’m not looking for an insurrection.

Neither am I Gramnesty, but look at what 0bama has wrought.

BLOAT.

5.56mm


56 posted on 04/16/2015 1:18:44 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: VinL

“”Well, we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn’t go down that road again,” Graham said, in an apparent reference to the Civil War. “I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets.” “

” And here’s the first thing I would do if I were president of the United States. I wouldn’t let Congress leave town until we fix this. I would literally use the military to keep them in if I had to “ ~ Lindsey “muffin cumberpatch” Graham

Well unless there are guns in the streets of DC...


57 posted on 04/16/2015 1:19:02 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: cripplecreek

Amen ... Amen ...


58 posted on 04/16/2015 1:19:36 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our Government ... Lead!!!!)
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To: VinL

So anyone who believes in the “2nd Ammendment” is planning an insurrection? What an incredibly irresponsible thing to say...


59 posted on 04/16/2015 1:20:25 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: BenLurkin

Add into that the E A S I L Y hackable electronic voting machines (I still don’t know we aren’t screaming about that one) and, well ... you’re vote probably means nothing.


60 posted on 04/16/2015 1:22:02 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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