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Right to Bear Arms? Gun grabbing sweeping the nation
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Posted on 04/15/2015 5:27:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Cherished family heirlooms were among the 21 firearms Michael Roberts surrendered to the Torrance Police Department in 2010, after his doctor filed a restraining order against him.

The court order was the result of a dispute Roberts had with a member of the doctor’s staff and, after Roberts pleaded no contest, the matter was resolved. Yet, even though he filed the proper Law Enforcement Gun Release paperwork on four separate occasions, obtained clearance from the California Department of Justice and had two court orders commanding the return of his guns, police refused to hand them over.

With the backing of the National Rifle Association and California Rifle and Pistol Association, Roberts filed a federal lawsuit in May 2014, over the $15,500 worth of firearms. In the end he got the money, but not the guns. The police had had them destroyed.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; donutwatch; governormoonbeam; govmoonbeam; guncontrol; gungrabbers; lofan; policestate; secondamendment; torrance
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Police need to be held personally liable for destroying people's lawful property.
1 posted on 04/15/2015 5:27:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Intimidation.

It’s what makes a police state work.


2 posted on 04/15/2015 5:29:54 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Disgusting.


3 posted on 04/15/2015 5:31:11 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I fell into a hundred foot ravine" -Marcus Luttrell)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Too many leftist-led police departments are now acting, voluntarily, as Obama/Holder’s personal gestapo, and I don’t say that lightly.

By fudging laws about alleged mental problems, Obama and company have created a new, unvoted on seizure mechanism which leftist judges/courts are upholding.

Lawsuits are the only way to fight back.


4 posted on 04/15/2015 5:31:14 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The guns were probably “destroyed” by distributing them among several senior officer’s private gun safes.


5 posted on 04/15/2015 5:32:40 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RandallFlagg

A lot in the article is of eye opening.....well worth the read beyond the header.


6 posted on 04/15/2015 5:33:33 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Intimidation.
It’s what makes a police state work.

Wait until the state gestapo start packing people (e.g., constitutionalists, global-warming-deniers) in locked railcars to be shipped to who-knows-where.

7 posted on 04/15/2015 5:34:37 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Red in Blue PA; Yo-Yo

Yes. Every police force has at least one cop that knows what’s valuable and what’s not.


8 posted on 04/15/2015 5:34:56 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Red in Blue PA

I hate all the f@cking nazis at all levels in this country.


9 posted on 04/15/2015 5:36:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Police need to be held personally liable for destroying people's lawful property.

Perhaps if they had to pay double the market value of property they destroy there would be less of that.

10 posted on 04/15/2015 5:39:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Those who conspired should be up on charges IMO.


11 posted on 04/15/2015 5:40:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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Roberts filed a federal lawsuit in May 2014, over the $15,500 worth of firearms. In the end he got the money, but not the guns. The police had had them destroyed.

And just try to re-purchase those firearms in California. Best of luck.

It's a short-sighted policy to say the least. Police who act in a lawless manner forfeit the protection of the law for themselves, the goodwill of the community, and create an enemy where they used to have a law-abiding citizen. Were it me and an officer needed assistance in front of me, I'd be turning my back on him afterwards. The Chief may not care but the officer on the street damn sure better care.

12 posted on 04/15/2015 5:40:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Red in Blue PA

Worth a full read, for sure.


13 posted on 04/15/2015 5:41:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Carl Vehse

Sucking chest wounds might make the job a little difficult


14 posted on 04/15/2015 5:41:53 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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Story covers the various ways cops can snatch your guns


15 posted on 04/15/2015 5:42:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Carl Vehse

“Wait until the state gestapo start packing people (e.g., constitutionalists, global-warming-deniers) in locked railcars to be shipped to who-knows-where.”

The real purpose of NDAA.


16 posted on 04/15/2015 5:45:33 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
There should have been criminal charges filed against the police who destroyed the property. The dollar amount sounds high enough to get the parties responsible slapped with a felony conviction. They can then suffer the same fate as the party they victimized as they lose their 2nd amendment rights and have their firearms collected.

The money paid to the victim should be taken from the criminals who destroyed the property and not from the taxpayers. A felony conviction and cash restitution to the victim.

17 posted on 04/15/2015 5:48:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Red in Blue PA
Probably the most notorious gun confiscation case happened after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans in 2005 when the city’s then-mayor, Ray Nagin, ordered all legally owned firearms seized. The Second Amendment Foundation successfully sued on behalf of thousands of law abiding gun owners to stop, or reverse, the confiscations. But hundreds more gun owners without legal representation or ownership paperwork had to abandon their guns.
18 posted on 04/15/2015 5:48:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am of the opinion that no firearms should be seized unless a JURY, after conviction of a violent crime, votes to remove the right.


19 posted on 04/15/2015 5:49:15 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Lawsuits are the only way to fight back.

No, they are not. Not any more.

20 posted on 04/15/2015 6:05:47 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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