"You scum constituents should be grateful to us and our Staff,
the EXEMPT --- who serve your (undocumented, Indonesian) King.
For daring to question us, the IRS will continue to harass you stinking conservatives and Tea Party."
Posted on 04/15/2015 6:41:30 AM PDT by Whenifhow
Mark Levin exposes the treachery in the US Senate today, who he says just capitulated completely to Obama by gutting their own constitutional duty to approve treaties, giving it solely to Obama.
So in short, Obama can make a treaty with the Islamo-Nazis in Iran without submitting it to the Senate and the Senate can only stop it if they can get enough nays to vote against it.
FYI
I’m confused. “approve it”... and “vote against it” seem functionally the same to me.
Has the House moved on this proposal yet?
The House is not involved in this because this is a senate only function in the constitution, as far as I know.
I’m listening to yesterdays show now.
So, if this "deal" is not legislation but just an informal agreement among friends then the Senate could change its mind at any time and rescind it.
Harry Reid endorses this bill
It’s kind of like the War Power they’ve handed over for decades. For the longest time our elected “leaders” have skirted the law and Constitution simply by saying “oh gee. Let’s just call it something else. It’s not a Treaty it’s an agreement!”
Approving a treaty requires 2/3 yes votes. Vote against it requires 60 senators to break a filibuster so 40 wanting it would be able to prevent disapproval and allow it to go into effect. There's a huge difference between needing 67 and 40 to "approve it".
Regardless, they cannot legislate away a power. Only an amendment can do that.
This stinks of McConnell. It's the same deal he made for the debt increase that undermined Boehner in the House - allow it with an unreachable override clause.
Since the Senate is the body that represents the states, the states will have to sue on the grounds that it violates the Article IV guarantee of a republican form of government. The Senate must uphold it's treaty power. It cannot twist it into a treaty super-majority veto override power.
-PJ
Just keep voting for Republicans! They will fix it! We can’t allow extremist right wing whacko birds into office! - Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnel!
The GOP-e can KMA. Go ahead GOP-e, force Jeb onto us. I dare you.
“I’m confused. “approve it”... and “vote against it” seem functionally the same to me.”
It is a huge difference. The constitution REQUIRES the Senate to approve any treaty. This means that BOTH the Legislative and Executive branch MUST agree to the proposed Treaty.
The Senate is now saying that the default is that ONLY the Executive branch needs to make a proposal and it is now by default considered Approved without any action by the Legislative branch. The only input from the Legislative branch is if they can MUSTER enough votes to over-ride a veto!
The Executive branch can now enter ANY treaty that they want and it will be considered approved by the Legislative. Unless the Senate votes it down with a VETO-PROOF majority.
Now, think of this applied to the UN “guns treaty.”
With this action, the Senate has handed the President DICTATORIAL power!
"You scum constituents should be grateful to us and our Staff,
the EXEMPT --- who serve your (undocumented, Indonesian) King.
For daring to question us, the IRS will continue to harass you stinking conservatives and Tea Party."
The law was that it took 67 votes in the Senate to approve any treaty.
NOW, the doofus assed Republicans have decided that the Senate gets 30 days to look at the treaty and either approve it or not approve it, BUT the Obongo can veto their ruling and it will take 67 votes to override Obongos veto.
Something like that. ugh No wonder Obongo approves.
Pathetic
....Corker’s legislation in effect lowers the threshold for approving the Iran deal from 67 votes to 41 – a craven betrayed of the Senate’s constitutional role as the final word on whether or not the United States agrees to a treaty.
he Senate is now saying that the default is that ONLY the Executive branch needs to make a proposal and it is now by default considered Approved without any action by the Legislative branch. The only input from the Legislative branch is if they can MUSTER enough votes to over-ride a veto!
Holy Shiite.
What is happening to our Constitution, and will anyone tell the people (I know Mark Levin, but anyone whom the low info voters actually hear??)
It’s time for EVERY GOP and Conservative (note the distinction) Presidential hopeful to come out swinging on THIS one- or GET OUT of the race !!!
However all is not lost.
The Senate retains their perks to parking, gyms, subsidized cafeteria, and office budgets to cover flowers and liquor
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