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NYT Writer: Christians ‘Must Be Made’ to Embrace Gay Lifestyle
Brietbart ^ | April 8, 2015 | Thomas D. Williams

Posted on 04/08/2015 10:23:23 AM PDT by Zakeet

In the wake of the Indiana donnybrook over religious liberty, which somehow was transformed overnight into a question of gay rights, it couldn’t be long before the New York Times weighed in against Christians.

Yet who could have expected the draconian measures the Times would propose? Either Christians fully embrace the gay lifestyle, or you will be coerced into doing so.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: christians; gay; homosexualagenda; mediabias; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And if citizens are sovereign then ipso facto your gay atheist neighbors are, too... no escape along these lines except the illusory escape that tries to merge Caesar and the church.

Citizens are not individually sovereign. It is the body of the people that make up the sovereign in America. So, again, you're simply mistaken.

81 posted on 04/08/2015 12:13:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: HiTech RedNeck
But you are insinuating that every which way while officially shunning the words.

No. That's a fiction you created in your own mind.

82 posted on 04/08/2015 12:14:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

But you have to act in concert with them. You can’t go shooting them down. So again you are mistaken.


83 posted on 04/08/2015 12:14:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, you are caught in denial.


84 posted on 04/08/2015 12:15:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Nero did not lose his right to execute murderers because of his own ill conduct. So you are wrong.

You're confusing "right" and "power." A common error.

85 posted on 04/08/2015 12:15:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: The_Reader_David

There is, however, a tradition for not allowing ourselves to be told by government how to worship God. It is on that point we ran afoul of the Roman authorities (who accused Christians of being atheists), and it is on that point this columnist is attacking us.


86 posted on 04/08/2015 12:15:57 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: EternalVigilance

WIth every duty comes a right. What sophistical silliness are you leaning on to say that God wanted Nero to execute murderers but Nero had no right to do so?


87 posted on 04/08/2015 12:16:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No, you are caught in denial.

Denial of what? That this is somehow a "church battle," to use your term?

You seem to have a severe misunderstanding of what is happening. Unbelievers, unlawfully using the levers of government, are tyrannically trying to force Christians to accept and approve what God calls abominations.

Please explain exactly how that is a "church battle."

88 posted on 04/08/2015 12:19:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Zakeet

So, we’re supposed to give gays a gold star for failing basic plumbing 101?


89 posted on 04/08/2015 12:20:55 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
WIth every duty comes a right. What sophistical silliness are you leaning on to say that God wanted Nero to execute murderers but Nero had no right to do so?

Who said he had no right or duty to execute murderers?

90 posted on 04/08/2015 12:21:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Zakeet
Gold told me that church leaders must be made “to take homosexuality off the sin list.”

Why not?

That's what many if not most churches have done with premarital sex. In practice if not in theory.

Would like to point out that if Christians are actually faithful to what they claim to believe they would be willing to be scorned, imprisoned or even executed to remain faithful.

91 posted on 04/08/2015 12:22:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Zakeet

F**k you and your totalitarian allies Thomas D. Williams. I will never submit to your ilk.


92 posted on 04/08/2015 12:24:29 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Nero, or should I say the Roman government, had the lawful authority to execute murderers. What they didn’t have was lawful, God-ordained authority to kill Christians, or to force them to dney Christ, or worship Caesar, or to kill babies, or to approve of, and cooperate with, sodomite practices. As soon as they did the latter, they became tyrants who had to be resisted, even unto death.


93 posted on 04/08/2015 12:26:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: mrmeyer

I would like to second your comment. All in favor say Aye.


94 posted on 04/08/2015 12:26:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (E)
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To: mrmeyer

Frank Bruni not Thomas D. Williams.


95 posted on 04/08/2015 12:38:31 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Epic!


96 posted on 04/08/2015 12:39:02 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: servantboy777

There is no fighting with Christ. He shows up and the battle is over, but we get to watch.


97 posted on 04/08/2015 12:41:46 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: JPG

ROFLOL!!!


98 posted on 04/08/2015 12:46:01 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Just realized at least one other way in which most Christian churches, even conservative ones, have moved away from a strict interpretation of the Bible.

The NT is pretty clear that women are to have a subordinate role in the congregation, not taking leading roles in preaching or prayer. From what I’ve seen of church services, this is being pretty thoroughly ignored by most churches.

Which brings up the interesting question of what is the logical basis of determining whether we will insist on fighting to the end to enforce some doctrines while quietly ignoring others.


99 posted on 04/08/2015 12:58:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: exit82

Interesting case


100 posted on 04/08/2015 3:19:17 PM PDT by citizen352 (I have done no harm. But I remember now. l am in this earthly world...)
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