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A Weird Discrepancy In The US Economy Has Begun To Work Itself Out ... In A Bad Way
BI ^ | 4-5-2015 | Sam Ro

Posted on 04/06/2015 7:28:21 AM PDT by blam

Sam Ro
4-5-2015

Since the beginning of the year, the pace of growth in numerous US economic indicators deteriorated significantly, so much so that many of these metrics even fell short of economists' expectations.

Weirdly, the pace of jobs growth had been resilient even amid unexpected plunges in key measures like retail sales and durable goods orders, reports which reflected weakness in both consumers and businesses.

However, this weirdness has begun to work itself out.

On Friday, we learned the US economy added just 126,000 jobs in March, missing expectations for 245,000 new jobs. You have to go all the way back to December 2013 to see a number that low. Even worse, the prior two months worth of job creation was revised down by 69,000.

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To: blam

I seem to recall Obama, in the 2012 election cycle, campaigning that he didn’t want Romney to win and take all the credit when the economy rebounded, since it was “positioned to make very significant GNP growth” (or whatever).

That’s the extent of his kind of ownership of this economy. Just position yourself to take credit, but as we’ve seen, the falsified employment numbers can’t truly hide the fact that our economy isn’t growing. You simply can’t have the 3% to 5% growth if there are so many missing workers (the denominator in the U3).

Of course, the media will never hold this administration to account.


21 posted on 04/06/2015 7:53:21 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: blam
From the article:IMHO, people are afraid of what is coming. Better to have a few bucks saved than to get caught short.
22 posted on 04/06/2015 7:53:37 AM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Governent is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V.)
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To: arthurus

stagflation


23 posted on 04/06/2015 7:53:46 AM PDT by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: KC_Conspirator
So next month when they report 200k jobs it will be reported as month/month increase of 74k , instead of the truly low growth that it is.
24 posted on 04/06/2015 7:55:02 AM PDT by steelie (Still Right Thinking)
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To: upchuck
Among other things, US consumers have been increasingly saving their money rather than spending today. Even much of the gasoline savings, which economists expected to be a big spending stimulus, do not seem to be flowing back into the economy.

Wasn't there a study that showed that gas savings were redirected into increased health insurance costs?

25 posted on 04/06/2015 8:02:08 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: steelie

I am sick of being lied to. I swear we live in a Age of Lies.


26 posted on 04/06/2015 8:07:39 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: spokeshave

obama’s malaise....


27 posted on 04/06/2015 8:10:43 AM PDT by subterfuge (Minneseeota: the laughingstock of the nation - for lots of reasons!)
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To: DanielRedfoot
Yup-They don't get it BOTH ways with me!

They're NOT going to tax me to the point of radical mastectomy THEN get me to subsidize their BS economy as well!

N O TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

28 posted on 04/06/2015 8:16:43 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMARTY

Lovin that tag line...gotta remember that


29 posted on 04/06/2015 8:22:06 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: blam

Savings is capital.
Without capital you cannot have Capitalism.

Duh


30 posted on 04/06/2015 8:23:23 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: blam

Did they accidentally expose algore’s global warming hoax?


31 posted on 04/06/2015 8:40:18 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: DanielRedfoot

Doesn’t it describe “O” to a T?


32 posted on 04/06/2015 8:57:18 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Which state sent debit cards? I can’t stand that, and it makes me think unspent funds in debit cards end up going back to either the issuer, or to the entity that bought the cards.


33 posted on 04/06/2015 8:59:27 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: blam
Consumer Confidence is low - normal, sane people are not going to spend big bucks when they may be unemployed tomorrow.
For that kind of irresponsible behavior you have to look to the government.
Lower gas prices are a welcome break but I've already gotten used to not making any unnecessary trips, gas is only a small part of the total mileage cost so my driving habits haven't changed.

It's a bit like Climate versus Weather - Large scale Economy does not instantly translate to individual spending patterns, especially since we know the Economy is not good no matter what they tell us.

34 posted on 04/06/2015 8:59:32 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: blam
Larry Summers Has A Major Warning For The US Economy, And Everyone Should Be Paying Attention
35 posted on 04/06/2015 9:14:46 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: KC_Conspirator

This “economy” is based on smoke and mirrors. The “recovery” is in spite of obungo and his minions. They have made malaise from the Carter years look like an absolute boom time. The only bright spot of the economy has been oil and it is now battered and will be for at least the next 12 to 18 months. Even then it will not return like it was.

Only a few years ago we had both attractive fixed rates of return and good investment returns. Do you mean to tell me that our economy NATURALLY changed that much in just a few years? No, it has been crippled when it was down and it has only barely recovered to where it was.

Consider these documented Rates of Return from the Gone Fishing Portfolio. 2009 was only the dead cat bouncing.

2003 32.7% (a dead cat bounce from the .com era),
2004 15.2%,
2005 11.9%,
2006 16.9%,
2007 10.7%,
2008 -31.7%,
2009 34.3% (the dead cat bounce),
2010 16.1%,
2011 -3.19%,
2012 13.4%,
2013 15.3%,
2014 3.8%

Over all these years there has been a compounded annual RoR of 9.88%.


36 posted on 04/06/2015 9:43:20 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: LS

I have been banking on that for some time.

Back in 1996 we were getting 8% on guaranteed deposits. Conservative mutual funds were making 12 to 14% with regularity. Who couldn’t retire on that? Now, who can retire on investments that are not just a crap shoot?


37 posted on 04/06/2015 9:45:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: RinaseaofDs

***Which state sent debit cards?***

Oklahoma.


38 posted on 04/06/2015 10:00:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The state, where we filed, sent us DEBIT cards as refunds!

So....take the funds off the debit card and put into savings account or into bonds, stocks, etc.

Unless a big spender in your family got to the card first! ;)

39 posted on 04/06/2015 10:09:05 AM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Being a debit card, how much is the fee to sweep the funds off the card into a cash account?

Most banks charge $25 or so.

40 posted on 04/06/2015 10:27:48 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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