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Will New York City Give Non-Citizens the Right to Vote?
National Review ^ | 04/06/2015 | John Fund

Posted on 04/06/2015 7:10:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

New York City mayor Bill de Blasio’s approval ratings have slipped below 50 percent, making it possible he could face a serious primary challenge in 2017. But New York’s pro–de Blasio city council may have found a way to stop that cold: A majority of the council supports giving more than 1 million non-citizens full rights to vote in local elections. That’s one in five adult New Yorkers.

Mayor de Blasio’s approval ratings are much higher among minorities than with whites, who oppose him by a two-to-one margin. Giving non-citizens — most of whom are minorities — the vote could cement far-left dominance of New York City’s government into place.

Legislation by Democratic Queens councilman David Dromm is being prepared for possible debate this spring. It would permit any non-citizen who has legal residency papers to vote for mayor, city council, and other offices. Dromm says that non-citizens pay taxes, contribute to the economy, and often have roots in the community. But he says their needs are often ignored by local officials.

Opponents of the measure say the right to vote is a privilege and shouldn’t be diluted. Eric Ulrich, a Republican city councilman from Queens, told Newsday: “It should only be for United States citizens. It’s also a reason for people who are on a path to citizenship to aspire to citizenship. It’s something for them to look forward to.”

Mayor de Blasio says he is open to a debate about having non-citizens vote but hasn’t explicitly endorsed the measure. But last year he issued municipal ID cards to some 500,000 undocumented immigrants in the city, and no one believes he would veto a bill the city council sent him on non-citizen voting. In 2013, 31 out of 51 city council measures backed the idea but it was opposed by then-mayor Michael Bloomberg and then-city-council-speaker Christine Quinn blocked it from coming to a vote.

The idea of non-citizen voting is an old one, but currently only six communities in Maryland allow it for local elections. Chicago gives voting rights to non-citizens in school-board elections.

But clearly liberals would like to expand non-citizen voting. Kevin Douglas, co-director of policy for New York City’s United Neighborhood Houses, told the liberal blog ThinkProgress “the interests of the citizen body and the legal resident body are essentially the same when they’re living in the same community.” Liberals are already bitter opponents of laws in Arizona and Kansas that require voters to confirm under penalty of perjury they are citizens when they register. One reason for those laws is that there is evidence non-citizens can already choose to vote without much fear of detection.

A study last year by two Old Dominion University professors, based on survey data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, indicated that 6.4 percent of all non-citizens voted illegally in the 2008 presidential election, and 2.2 percent did in the 2010 midterms. Given that 80 percent of non-citizens lean Democratic, they cite Al Franken ’s 312-vote win in the 2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate race as one likely tipped by non-citizen voting. That election also had profound consequences. As a senator, Franken cast the 60th vote needed to make Obamacare law.

Supporters of non-citizen voting believe that if they can impose the idea in “the global hub” of New York City, it will catch on elsewhere.

“As New York City goes, so goes the rest of the world,” Councilman Dromm told Britain’s Guardian newspaper.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; communist; deblasio; newyork; noncitizens; nyc; nyccouncil; stolenvotes; voting
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1 posted on 04/06/2015 7:10:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What better way to maintain the demonRAT majority as Blacks and Jews walk away from the demonRAT plantation?


2 posted on 04/06/2015 7:12:28 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nobody ever asks “What prevents these illegals from voting in other races on the ballot”?


3 posted on 04/06/2015 7:12:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Westbrook

Blacks don’t appear to be walking anywhere.


4 posted on 04/06/2015 7:13:45 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: cripplecreek

well if non Americans can vote in their election why not us in the south or Midwest?


5 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:00 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind; Sun; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued

Shouldn’t this be up to the State legislature?


6 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:29 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Westbrook

The only person who thinks blacks will walk away is the nut Rand Paul


7 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:36 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two wolves and one lamb voting on what to have for dinner.


8 posted on 04/06/2015 7:14:53 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you don’t have to be a citizen then why are there age limits as well? Why only one vote? Why can’t you cast multiple votes?


9 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:07 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Why not people in the south vote in their election?


10 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

“A majority of the council supports giving more than 1 million non-citizens full rights to vote in local elections.”

A majority of the council are democrats who will change their tune if ever these non citizens start voting republican.


11 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:40 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Impy

It shouldn’t be up to anyone to legalize theft of votes from citizens.


12 posted on 04/06/2015 7:15:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: manc

Good idea :-)

Send for your absentee ballot right away.


13 posted on 04/06/2015 7:16:46 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: cripplecreek

Or voting for ‘the other guy’?.................


14 posted on 04/06/2015 7:16:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: SeekAndFind

Supporters of non-citizen voting believe that if they can impose the idea in “the global hub” of New York City, it will catch on elsewhere...

what an arrogant yutz!

If Ted Cruz’s recent “performance” in the Polls....is amy indication of the direction this nation is headed and I strongly suspect that it is. the likelihood of illegal alien voting being accepted anywhere BUT new yawk and ELAY is HIGHLY Unlikely!


15 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:03 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: SeekAndFind

And here we come to the heart of the matter with illegal immigration. A Democrat has screwed things up for the taxpayers so badly that the taxpayers won’t vote for him.

The Democrat politician, rather than examine his policies towards taxpayers, seeks to give illegal taxtakers the vote. Then, he doesn’t have to worry about taxpayers.


16 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind
among minorities than with whites

Whites are the minority in NYC. It's despicable and ridiculous to label one group with multiple ethnicities as monolithic - whites - while subdividing non-whites into ever more absurd nationalist categories (Ethiopian-American! Haitian-American! Congo-American!).

The Rat party aborted itself out of existence starting in 1973 and now they don't have the support of the people they once called their countrymen. So the only way they CAN keep power is by getting foreigners into the country and giving them the vote.

How can we say we are Free if anybody on Earth can walk in and vote to take the country from us?

17 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:22 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

He will win reelection. In NYC, if people don’t like you they won’t vote for someone else they’ll simply stay home and not vote at all. Look for the next mayoral election to have a record low turnout.


18 posted on 04/06/2015 7:17:46 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: lowbridge

We all vote in their election by absentee while we live down in the south and once refused go to court saying the left is doing voter suppression.


19 posted on 04/06/2015 7:18:33 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now that they have a driver’s license they can go in and show their id and vote.


20 posted on 04/06/2015 7:18:38 AM PDT by seawolf101
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