Posted on 04/04/2015 6:16:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
A black man shouldn't be forced to bake a cake for a KKK party. A Jew shouldnt be forced to bake a cake for a Nazi shindig. A Muslim shouldn't be forced to bake a cake with pork. A gay man shouldn't be forced to bake a cake for a Westboro Baptist Churchs "God hates F@gs" party and a Christian business should not be forced to participate in a gay marriage. For that matter, a Christian shouldn't be forced to bake a cake for an orgy, a Satanist mass or an atheist meeting either.
When you say that a Christian shouldnt become a baker, florist or wedding photographer unless hes willing to violate his religious beliefs, youre directly contradicting the First Amendment which prohibits the making of any law impeding the free exercise of religion. When you make it impossible for a Christian to enter a profession without violating his faith, then you are violating the First Amendment. That should make Freedom of Religion laws completely unnecessary and if that doesnt do the trick, then common sense should do the job because businesses already refuse to serve customers for every reason under the sun.
Here at the beach, many businesses have a No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service sign. In certain areas, bars and restaurants will ask you to leave if youre wearing gang colors. If you make too much noise in a movie theater or even try to take in your own food, you will be told to leave. If a liberal atheist gives speeches for pay, you cant legally force him to give a conservative speech to a group of Christians. For that matter, even Apple, which attacked Christians in Indiana and Arkansas who dont want to violate their religious beliefs, can and does reject applications it finds offensive. Apple also does business with nations like Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Iran and Qatar that despicably murder their own citizens for being gay -- but thats a different column.
Moreover, the people being discriminated against here are Christians, not gays. If youre gay and a cake shop, florist, photographer or even a pizza place doesnt want to participate in your wedding, you should go to the next one down the street. If you suffer any damage at all, its only to your fragile self-esteem that apparently cant deal with the fact that someone exists who doesnt approve of everything you do. On the other hand, a Christian company that lives up to its principles may be fined into oblivion or lose its business entirely because it refuses to abandon its beliefs. This isnt a theoretical argument; it has happened multiple times already. Whos actually the victim? The Christian who politely declines to cater an event because it conflicts with his values or the gay grifter who deliberately picks a principled small business to try to ruin, feigns shock when it wont cater his wedding and then tries to turn destroying a decent persons livelihood into a way to gain money and attention?
Of course, non-Christians might ask what the difference is between baking a cake for say, an adulterer, or creating one for a gay marriage. The answer is that were ALL sinners, but theres a big difference between serving a sinner and actively participating in his sins. No Christian business should participate in a gay wedding and thats not a controversial point among Christians. Gay marriage is incompatible with Christianity and if you are unfortunate enough to be at one of the relatively small number of churches that tells you otherwise, it has put pleasing the world ahead of being faithful to God and you should move elsewhere as soon as possible.
Even if thats so, didnt Jesus sit down with sinners? So, shouldnt Christians cater to gay weddings? Jesus certainly did sit down with sinners, but He didnt do it on their terms. Jesus was there to help people who had gotten off track, not to get down in the mud and sin with them. If Jesus was forced to lend His carpentry services to a gay wedding, chances are Hed tell the guests that they shouldnt engage in sodomy and would suggest that they call off the wedding. Then, MSNBC would be railing against Him, Dan Savage would be calling Him a bigot and Jesus would end up making tens of millions in contributions to a GoFundMe Account set up in His name that Hed end up giving to the poor, because Hes just that kind of guy.
If people can lose their jobs for opposing gay marriage (and they have) and small businesses can be fined and harassed until theyre closed for opposing gay marriage (and they have), whats next? Will we be jailing people for refusing to go to gay weddings? Will Christian churches that oppose gay weddings (which is all of them except for a few slowly dying, corrupted liberal denominations) be run out of business? Christianity has been around since before America was a country and assuming the planet lasts that long, it will be around long after this nation is gone. So, the question isnt whether Christianity is going anywhere: its whether Christianity in America will continue going strong. The answer to that question depends on the courage of Americas Christians and their willingness to stand up for their faith.
That is the fascism that the Democrat’s are peddling since the reign of Obama.
You said it
Very good read. Puts things in badly needed perspective.
I would think that referring someone to someone else would be a good polite idea. Even people at 7/11 shops do that when they do not have what I am looking for.
Nailed it.
Remember when they used to say “If you don’t like gay marriage, then don’t go to one”?
Now it’s “You don’t want to participate in my gay wedding? Then you will be FORCED”.
“Will we be jailing people for refusing to go to gay weddings?”
Why not they can make you buy health insurance or else.
You are off the topic
Did indeed
“A black man shouldn’t be forced to bake a cake for a KKK party. A Jew shouldnt be forced to bake a cake for a Nazi shindig. A Muslim shouldn’t be forced to bake a cake with pork. A gay man shouldn’t be forced to bake a cake for a Westboro Baptist Churchs “God hates F@gs” party and a Christian business should not be forced to participate in a gay marriage. For that matter, a Christian shouldn’t be forced to bake a cake for an orgy, a Satanist mass or an atheist meeting either.”
The list of things society forces people to do should probably be pretty short. Cake baking doesn’t seem like a candidate.
I thought it was apropos, given the topic. Both describes the governments attempts to use force to compel people to do something they don’t want to do.
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Why doesn't Rush sue his harasser, the ones who have gone after his advertisers? It is completely actionable.
Why doesn't the guy who was falsely accused of rape go after Lena Dunham?
Why doesn't the fraternity falsely accused of rape go after Rolling Stone, or Mother Jones Earth, or whatever?
Why do we take all this abuse and NEVER NEVER fight back?
Perspective only matters to us. What the liberal media needs is a good lie to feed to the minions. See Ferguson MO for an example.
The “tolerant” lefty mask always slips and reveals the totalitarian lefty face.
Gay’s get crazier by the day man the rubber rooms.
Superb analysis of the situation.
my bio seems oddly prophetic
the author hits the nail square
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