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Republicans are quietly strategizing to delete gay marriage from the party's 2016 platform.
National Journal ^ | 03/29/2015 | Alex Roarty

Posted on 03/30/2015 7:21:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Late last summer, with midterms consuming the attention of the political class, a group of GOP activists spent two days in Des Moines trying to convince their fellow Republicans that change was coming to their party. With eyes on 2016, they attended the Iowa State Fair, talked with newspaper editorial boards, and even ventured onto conservative talk radio. To cap it off, on the last evening, supporters gathered at 801 Chophouse, the upscale watering hole of the city's political elite, as if to announce their movement had gone mainstream. That it couldn't be dismissed as fringe any longer.

Their issue, in a state where evangelical Christians remain the heart of the GOP base, was support for same-sex marriage.

The reception was smaller than expected—just about 50 people came—and included a lineup of supporters already deeply involved in the GOP's gay-marriage movement. Yet while it would have to be described as underwhelming, the event nonetheless signaled movement. "Here you have a conservative reception for activists to come in and talk marriage equality in a central hub of political activity," says Jeff Angelo, a former state senator who is now chairman of Iowa Republicans for Freedom, a pro-gay-marriage group. "That's not usual."

Indeed, it's not. Less than 10 years ago, the last Republican who would go on to win the presidency traveled conservative America touting a series of "one man, one woman" state constitutional amendments. But the task that day in Iowa wasn't to show Republicans how much has changed in a decade or to nudge them toward acceptance of those unions. It was to force them to concede that going neutral on gay marriage is critical to winning the White House.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: Iowa; US: Kentucky
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To: Paradox

You do not ever give up when fighting for the truth, no matter what the current public opinion is.


21 posted on 03/30/2015 8:10:18 AM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: SeekAndFind

....and the DC Republicans wonder why the grass roots are abandoning the party.


22 posted on 03/30/2015 8:12:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

....and the DC Republicans wonder why the grass roots are abandoning the party.


23 posted on 03/30/2015 8:13:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand Paul: “Republicans need to surrender because TV said so.”


24 posted on 03/30/2015 8:14:36 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: LYDIAONTARIO

+1


25 posted on 03/30/2015 8:15:11 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

They pull that and they’ve lost me forever.


26 posted on 03/30/2015 8:19:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Now, in recent years, polls show that the American people actually support homosexual marriage

I suspect that has a lot to do with the fact that the schools have been pushing the homosexual agenda for the last 20 years. Those "kids" are now voting adults. That doesn't make it right.

27 posted on 03/30/2015 8:21:26 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SeekAndFind

We knew why it was so important to them to get Romney to the head of the party.

It was to end the social conservatism of the party and break it from Christianity once and for all.


28 posted on 03/30/2015 8:24:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

SURP


29 posted on 03/30/2015 8:26:59 AM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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To: ex-snook
Thank you for your service.

I don't actually understand what you mean by SURP.

30 posted on 03/30/2015 8:33:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I suspect that has a lot to do with the fact that the schools have been pushing the homosexual agenda for the last 20 years.

These kids aren't as pro-homo as most people think. They've had to deal with it in their faces for the last 20 years. If you get those kids away from their peers, they'll tell you the truth about how they really feel. If you listen to what they say under their breaths after they see a homo in the hall, you'll hear them say stuff like "Ewwww." Or "How f----- up is that?" Another one is "like, barf!"
Believe it or not, college kids are not homo friendly unless when they're trapped in a class room. These kids have just been trained to be silent to the liberal agenda.
What you see or hear in the news is only what the news wants you to see and hear. There's a huge other side of the story out there!

31 posted on 03/30/2015 8:36:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Now, in recent years, polls show that the American people actually support homosexual marriage. A few states have passed laws allowing homosexual marriage. This would have been unthinkable 10 years ago, but it’s happening in the past few years. While this issue has mainly been forced through the courts, it’s also happened through the political process too.

And polls of young conservatives find barely a small majority still opposed to homosexual marriage. Polls of young people overall show that they are overwhelmingly in favor of homosexual marriage.

Have you watched television lately? It is an endless series of homosexual promoting television shows. I just watched an episode of "Bones" the other day. Of COURSE they had to put forth a homosexual relationship as part of the plot. Shows like "Glee" are a non-stop "gay" normalization propaganda stream, as are "Modern Family", and countless others.

I saw a study a year ago that said something like 84 out of 125 television shows (greater than 50%) feature either "gay" actors, or "gay" characters, all portrayed in a positive light.

We live in an age where all the forces of Propaganda have been turned towards normalizing what is a sick, disgusting and disease ridden practice, and their efforts are working.

We need to destroy Hollywood, and we need to Destroy Liberal Democrat control of the News Streams. Till we address these propaganda and misinformation streams, we are going to be unable to move the nation towards stability.

32 posted on 03/30/2015 8:41:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Go ahead. Accept it. Forgive some of us if we continue to speak out against it.

Actually I do, I just hope you understand that I want to do some winning, and hope we can take back so much that we have lost over the last 8 years. I dont think this issue is one of them, but there are plenty of others I think we can.

33 posted on 03/30/2015 8:50:53 AM PDT by Paradox (and now here we are....)
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To: DiogenesLamp
We live in an age where all the forces of Propaganda have been turned towards normalizing what is a sick, disgusting and disease ridden practice, and their efforts are working.

I believe people inherently know when something isn't right. They know abortion is barbaric. They know homosexuality is sick. They know welfare is the slavery of others. The problem is they don't know how to stop it. The Republicans in Washington are no longer listening to the people. They, too, have became as power hungry and addicted to their taxpayer paid luxuries as the democrats.
The majority has no one to turn to. They have no one to vote for.

34 posted on 03/30/2015 8:55:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SeekAndFind

Trying to eliminate the republican Party from American politics altogether? These are Democrat operatives, no?


35 posted on 03/30/2015 8:59:14 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Zack Nguyen

Republicans mostly do “get it.” They would just rather be Left than in office.


36 posted on 03/30/2015 9:00:28 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what else i s new? The GOP doesn’t really stand for anything but many will continue to insist on voting for them.


37 posted on 03/30/2015 9:01:42 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Paradox
Actually I do, I just hope you understand that I want to do some winning, and hope we can take back so much that we have lost over the last 8 years. I dont think this issue is one of them, but there are plenty of others I think we can.

I understand. I hope that you and others understand that it is the social issues that drives many of us. Yes, we may have lost everything. Yes, it may be hopeless to regain lost ground. But don't think that we will quit fighting. And don't think that because we have lost everything that we will now dedicate equal effort to other issues in our party that are treasured and trumpeted by Republicans who have abandoned us in our fight.

Not gonna happen.
38 posted on 03/30/2015 9:02:11 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not marriage. Civil unions are on them.


39 posted on 03/30/2015 9:02:41 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Republicans need to soften on social issues” so that the Republican Party can stay comfortably in second place. Unfortunately and what they do not understand is that with being “soft” on cultural issues and on immigration. especially of the illegal variety, the Republican Party will eliminate the whole concept of “second place” because there will be only the one Ruling Party which will be the totalitarian Democrats.


40 posted on 03/30/2015 9:03:27 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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