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Andreas Lubitz: Germanwings flight's last minutes revealed in chilling black box transcript
Mirror ^ | March 29, 2015

Posted on 03/29/2015 5:14:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: Red in Blue PA

Problem is the more systems and warnings you pack into a plane, the more likely one of them will malfunction and work against you. Or the software can be sabotaged/hacked. An insane pilot is extremely extremely rare but computer failure is common.

For that reason every airliner can always revert to full manual mode and each of the hand controls are multiple redundant. Giving the pilot full control to respond to mechanical failure is more important than keeping control from a potentially crazy pilot


61 posted on 03/29/2015 10:47:47 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: RaceBannon

Yeah I just read that it made a glancing blow and then went into a ravine or valley. How traumatic it must have been.


62 posted on 03/29/2015 10:50:19 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: KeyLargo

Imagine if the pilot would have been armed. I would have gotten thru a locked door with my firearm.

And more.


63 posted on 03/29/2015 10:51:14 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: zipper

PRP also covered maintenance personnel.


64 posted on 03/29/2015 11:37:59 AM PDT by TankerKC (If Mitt Romney is elected, everyone in the US will die!)
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To: varyouga

Cars have sensors which stop them from backing into a wall. Not sure why planes couldn’t feature something similar to avoid flying into mountains.

Last I checked, cars were not overriding the drivers on highways.


65 posted on 03/29/2015 12:06:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Delta 21
Imagine if the pilot would have been armed. I would have gotten thru a locked door with my firearm. And more.

No you wouldn't have. The doors were reconstructed after 9/11 to be impenetrable to small arms fire.
66 posted on 03/29/2015 12:07:31 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: KeyLargo

You link that doesn’t work is for a .dtd file.

What is that?


67 posted on 03/29/2015 12:10:47 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: KeyLargo

When I look at the photo of the mass murderer with the Golden Gate Bridge in the background, I can’t help but think he would have done humanity a favor by jumping from it.


68 posted on 03/29/2015 12:13:59 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Red in Blue PA

They have ground proximity warning systems, as noted in the CVR transcript. Whatever they would have would have to be able to be turned off else the plane could never land.


69 posted on 03/29/2015 12:25:28 PM PDT by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It says something about your choice of direction when your enemies start using your own defenses against you.


70 posted on 03/29/2015 12:30:08 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: windsorknot

Sorry he would live to fly another day the loony left put nets under it


71 posted on 03/29/2015 12:50:31 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Delta 21

But i dont understand you said you could have stopped it


72 posted on 03/29/2015 12:51:38 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

You gonna tell me I wouldn’t have tried ?


73 posted on 03/29/2015 12:53:36 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: al baby

One of my first questions was ‘were there any air marshals on board?’


74 posted on 03/29/2015 12:58:24 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: TankerKC
PRP also covered maintenance personnel.

I suppose it was anyone with any access to nukes. There were big red stenciled letters "PRP" on the outside cover of their medical records.

Makes me remember Slim Pickens.

75 posted on 03/29/2015 1:13:20 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Delta 21
One of my first questions was ‘were there any air marshals on board?’

Air marshals? That's for paranoid Americans. Or I should say "was".

76 posted on 03/29/2015 1:24:25 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: zipper
"SAC (Strategic Air Command) used to have a PRP (Personnel Reliability Program) for aircrew members (bomber, tanker, or missileers)."

Yeah, one of the things that bothers me about flying, is that in decades past it was unheard of that a commercial pilot would NOT have learned to fly in the military. Hence, by the time a guy flew passengers he was experienced and well seasoned. If you didn't have military training you didn't get hired, period.

The stress of the combat training would have spit this psycho out by about year three. General aviation, maybe private flight instructor, that's as far as he would have gone.

Now any idiot can "sign up" to become a pilot. Isn't that nice?

77 posted on 03/29/2015 1:25:44 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

I call nonsense on your pronouncement that in the past, non-military were not allowed, or that none existed.

Certainly not world-wide.

Maybe you’re mistaking the high percentages of MIL trained - in the US - proving regulations.

I have never heard such a thing, and I’m pretty history-savvy. Source?


78 posted on 03/29/2015 1:35:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Hopefully this tragedy will drive the development of diagnostic tools that will let us detect.......”.

I see and somewhat agree with your point. Giving the govt power to read our minds as they do in the sci fi movies is worrisome.

The crux of this specific problem was the Germans not having a policy in place when the co-pilot or pilot left the cabin that a steward etc had to be left behind. Under no circumstances could only one remain in total control of the door and the lives. It would have likely prevented this.

This same unilateral freedom to act out or kill by some exists also in gun free zones. It’s about power to some. Someone gets in with a firearm and they know no one can stop them from killing others.

People need to know in these situations if possible, that there are deterrents in place....such as a steward in the captains chair in his absence or in the case of theaters or schools, members of the public (or as teachers) that may be armed thus posing a threat to unilateral unmitigated ability to kill an attacker if (and it is a rare if) such an individual in that situation has a penchant to act out a fantasy of killing etc.

Has anyone heard the airplane control nuts and media demanding that airplanes be banned? Instead the focus is on the individual who did this and not the inanimate object that had nothing to do.


79 posted on 03/29/2015 1:49:20 PM PDT by apoliticalone (The face of America is changing and only corrupt beholden politicians voted for it, not Americans)
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To: hattend

What’s the link you are referring to?


80 posted on 03/29/2015 2:16:02 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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