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Andreas Lubitz: Germanwings flight's last minutes revealed in chilling black box transcript
Mirror ^ | March 29, 2015

Posted on 03/29/2015 5:14:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Andreas Lubitz: Germanwings flight's last minutes revealed in chilling black box transcript

29 March 2015 By Alex Wellman

Patrick Sondheimer is heard screaming to his co-pilot "Open the goddam door" as passengers scream in the background

The dramatic last moments of the doomed Germanwings flight have been revealed in a chilling transcript of the black box recording that shows the captain screaming at Andreas Lubitz “Open the goddam door”.

Patrick Sondheimer, pilot of the traffic plane, is heard frantically pleading with the killer to let him into the cockpit, just seconds before crashing into the Alps.

BEA Germanwings CVR

Evidence: The Cockpit Voice Recorder of the Germanwings plane has shown the terrifying last moments of the flight

The recording is said to begin normally, with the captain apologizing to passengers for an almost 30 minute delay in Barcelona.

He then tells them he expects the flight to make up the lost time mid-flight to Dusseldorf.

Andreas Lubitz Germanwings: Live updates on horror French Alps crash

Revealed in the German newspaper Bild, the recordings then show the tragic captain chatting with Lubitz for the next 20 minutes.

According to the paper, the killer co-pilot then tells Mr Sondheimer he can go to the toilet at any time – noting that he had not relieved himself at the airport in Barcelona.

A short while later, 10.27am, the plane has reached its cruising altitude of 38,000ft and the captain tells Lubitz to prepare for the landing.

According to investigators, the co-pilot’s responses are said to be “laconic”, with the 27-year-old using phrase such as “hopefully” and “we’ll see”.

Germanwings killer Andreas Lubitz 'trawled internet for suicide and sexual perversion websites'

In one chilling exchange, Lubitz tells the pilot “You can go now”

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


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To: caww
Now that the world no longer believes in the sanctity of life, ...(we murder babies still in the womb)...life is expendable for whatever one might think in their minds.

When would you say that Golden Age was when life was not expendable for whatever one might think in their minds?

141 posted on 03/30/2015 4:20:59 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: rainee

“What was the speed at impact? Plausible to open doors & jump out?”

I think I saw that on a Bugs Bunny episode.


142 posted on 03/30/2015 5:12:58 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: apoliticalone; KeyLargo

The problem with developing tests and removing these people is that it’s the government and shrinks that would do so. This will make things worse, not better. They will use these tools to prevent intelligent, stable, mainstream Americans from getting jobs and will use it as affirmative action, as political spoils, as social engineering, and as political weaponry against conservatives.

Psychologists are responsible for removing homosexuality from the list of psychiatric disorders and deciding it is “normal.”


143 posted on 03/30/2015 6:16:34 PM PDT by generally
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To: KeyLargo

386 mph last recorded air speed.


144 posted on 03/30/2015 6:22:14 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: AFPhys
Israel said “Never Again”....but here we are...with our own Holocaust far more brutal and inhumane. Since Roe vs. Wade we have slaughtered more babies in the most despicable ways and provided slaughter houses to do the deed and call it “Health Care”....We don't call the people that do abortions “Monsters” we call them “Healthcare Providers”.

Therefore.. it's nothing at all finding other words to describe a man who murdered 150 people, woman and children, strapped in their seats, while a “rescue was in progress”...... to their death and NOT call him the brutal, self-centered despicable monster and mass murderer that he is.


145 posted on 03/30/2015 7:27:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jewbacca

I know!

That’s why it doesn’t seem plausible at all but someone mentioned jumping out, opening door & jumping from wings.
There’s no way..


146 posted on 03/30/2015 8:16:49 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: generally

“The problem with developing tests and removing these people is that it’s the government and shrinks that would do so. This will make things worse, not better. They will use these tools to prevent intelligent, stable, mainstream Americans from getting jobs and will use it as affirmative action, as political spoils, as social engineering, and as political weaponry against conservatives.”

It is no coincidence that the Obama administration is doing all they can to encourage (nudge) all returning military vets to see pshcy evaluations and get diagnosed with PTSD, with subsequent financial award for mental disability.

The would preclude any military vet from obtaining a firearm following state legal firearm possession laws.

Therefore - Bingo.

Another backdoor way of gun control by Obama through one of his agencies.

GUN CONTROL: Obama administration issues two executive actions defining who can buy a gun.
Filed under Police State
Posted by: Robert Richardson
Jan 3, 2014

The Obama administration quietly released a press statement, confirming President Obama will be signing two new executive actions defining who can buy a gun based on mental health issues.

The restrictions will try to limit who can buy a gun, based on past mental health issues. The new mental health restrictions, which are being enforced as regulations through the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services, will allow the government to get around certain privacy laws so they can access your private medical records. It also allows them to yet again sidestep congress.

One of regulations allows the feds to access your private medical records to determine your “mental stability” in relation to owing a firearm. If you are found to be mentally unstable, the Justice Department can then deny your right to own a firearm. But the problem really comes from who’s defining what “mentally unstable” actually means.

While most people would probably agree that mentally ill people with a history of violence shouldn’t be allowed to own a firearm, the new regulations aren’t quite that simple. In fact, under these laws – as we’ve seen happen recently in New York – pretty much anyone can be declared mentally unfit.

Earlier this year, the State of New York used similar mental health regulations to classify anxiety as a mental health issue. Because of that, anyone who has ever reported feeling anxious could be at risk of losing their 2nd amendment rights. In fact, there are already a number of cases making their way through the court system in New York, where people actually lost their rights because they were prescribed anti-anxiety medications.

Since almost 25% of the population now takes anti-anxiety / depression medications, almost a quarter of the country could be at risk of being labeled mentally unfit to own a firearm, if these same policies take hold at a federal level.

They’ve already started going after Vets with these regulations.

Anyone who thinks these regulations are about stopping mentally violent people from owning a gun, should take a look at what the federal government is doing to returning vets who have been injured during battle.

Last month we reported on how veterans with financial troubles were being labeled Mental Defectives, thus stripping them of their ability to own a firearm. As part of a new U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) process, any injured veteran who is unable to personally manage their own disability benefits is being entered into the F.B.I. NICS System, and told they will no longer legally be able to own or buy a firearm.

If this can be done to returning veterans, what do you think is going to happen once these regulations are let loose on the general public?

http://offgridsurvival.com/guncontrol-mentalhealth/


147 posted on 03/30/2015 8:54:15 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

EXCLUSIVE: Twisted obsessions of killer in cockpit: Lubitz trawled ‘dark side’ of the web

KILLER co-pilot Andreas Lubitz was trawling suicide and gay websites as he spiralled into mental illness.

By James Murray and James Fielding
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Mar 29, 2015

A police source in Dusseldorf said: “We have a team disassembling his computer, and that of his girlfriend, because the information that we received was that he trawled the dark side of the web visiting, among other things, sites containing gay porn, suicide themes and sexual perversions.”

Lubitz also endured the nickname “Tomato Andy”, a German term for repressed homosexuals and a dig at his previous job as a flight attendant.

Reports have suggested he was troubled by his sexuality and also seeking treatment for vision problems. Last year he scared a girlfriend with remarks that showed his mind was in a dark and secretive place.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/567027/Andreas-Lubitz-searched-suicide-gay-feared-pay-cut


148 posted on 03/31/2015 6:58:33 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: KeyLargo

Some here will ridicule me for stating this, but demon possession is not limited to a past era. I believe this co-pilot was demon-possessed.


149 posted on 03/31/2015 7:02:33 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: cynwoody

The issue there is pilots on long haul flights, where two are sleeping in the main cabin/crew rest areas.

The terrorist gets a pilot on rest cycle to open the door.

That’s what they will tell you.


150 posted on 04/01/2015 6:17:57 PM PDT by Gamecock ("The Christian who has stopped repenting has stopped growing." A.W. Pink)
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To: WTFOVR

Coould a computer land a plane with both engines out in the Hudson?


151 posted on 04/01/2015 6:25:13 PM PDT by Gamecock ("The Christian who has stopped repenting has stopped growing." A.W. Pink)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Lubitz also endured the nickname “Tomato Andy”, a German term for repressed homosexuals and a dig at his previous job as a flight attendant.

Some might consider the tomato a vegetable, but it's really a fruit. In fact, since 2009, it's the State Fruit of Ohio (Lycopersicon esculentus).

152 posted on 04/01/2015 9:29:28 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Chickensoup

Definitely different. Years ago, on a trip to Frankfurt, I got quite ill. A German flight attendant went with me to the pharmacist and described my symptoms. The pharmacist then prescribed something for me. I was fearful at the cost but it was quite cheap and I didn’t have to go to a doctor.


153 posted on 04/02/2015 6:30:11 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Red in Blue PA; NCjim

“Cars have sensors which stop them from backing into a wall.”

Because the consequences of that sensor malfunctioning is a car stopping short while going reverse (generally very slow and nearly no chance of accident)

The consequences of a thousand possible things malfunctioning on a plane and some nanny system overriding the pilot could easily result in a forced flight into the ground.

In the air, you sometimes have to do things beyond the understanding of machines and their limited ability in such situations can kill you if you can’t override.

Your idea would only be practical if the danger from suicidal pilots was more than the danger from machine failure. I don’t think we are there...yet


154 posted on 04/03/2015 7:15:18 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Slambat
“What was the speed at impact? I had read 430 mph”

Doesn’t matter. Once the people jump and leave the airplane they would no longer be traveling with it.

But they would still be moving at 430 mph (until air resistance slowed them down) in the direction the plane was traveling. It is called inertia. Yes, gravity would provide a vertical component to their velocity so that they wouldn't be traveling in the same direction as the plane. Plus, depending at what altitude they jumped off, they might end up dying upon impact with the ground anyway.

155 posted on 04/06/2015 7:09:23 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Gamecock

Yes, with proper power supply backup, and AI programming, or remotely piloted from the ground in event of emergency. With today’s advanced technology their is absolutely NO NEED to have a human in the cockpit - NONE. The airlines do so only for psychological comfort of the passengers. From a purely technological view, human pilots are of no consequence, and ought to be replaced with full automation. We land space probes on distant planets, and all is accomplished remotely or by on-board robotics.

What, you think only humans can perform “miraculous landings”? You are seriously out of the technology loop if that is what you believe.


156 posted on 04/12/2015 2:00:59 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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